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	<title>Comments on: Progressively Sneaky Terminology</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from Plymouth Brethren Blogger Rey Reynoso</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s supposed to be putting out a revised version at some point, so it might be worth waiting. I don&#039;t know how soon it will be.

One thing to keep in mind about him is that he&#039;s a Baptist. He&#039;s a credobaptist, in particular, which means he strongly disagrees with one thing covenant theology holds about who belongs to the covenant (i.e. children who have not expressed saving faith are in the covenant). That&#039;s one of the biggest sticking points for me, too. I just can&#039;t see how someone can be in the covenant once baptized as a child and then not be in the covenant later if they reject the faith, given the doctrine of perseverance of the saints. And yet Calvinist after Calvinist will say such things. It just baffles me. It seems that a Calvinist ought to say that someone who is never saved was never in the covenant.

Oh, and I have a feeling Tom Schreiner and is also NCT. He&#039;s another Reformed Baptist who used to be closely associated with Piper, but he went on to get a Ph.D. and did his own work, and now he&#039;s contributed more to biblical studies and theology than Piper ever did (although Piper will always be more influential at the popular level, I&#039;d say).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s supposed to be putting out a revised version at some point, so it might be worth waiting. I don&#8217;t know how soon it will be.</p>
<p>One thing to keep in mind about him is that he&#8217;s a Baptist. He&#8217;s a credobaptist, in particular, which means he strongly disagrees with one thing covenant theology holds about who belongs to the covenant (i.e. children who have not expressed saving faith are in the covenant). That&#8217;s one of the biggest sticking points for me, too. I just can&#8217;t see how someone can be in the covenant once baptized as a child and then not be in the covenant later if they reject the faith, given the doctrine of perseverance of the saints. And yet Calvinist after Calvinist will say such things. It just baffles me. It seems that a Calvinist ought to say that someone who is never saved was never in the covenant.</p>
<p>Oh, and I have a feeling Tom Schreiner and is also NCT. He&#8217;s another Reformed Baptist who used to be closely associated with Piper, but he went on to get a Ph.D. and did his own work, and now he&#8217;s contributed more to biblical studies and theology than Piper ever did (although Piper will always be more influential at the popular level, I&#8217;d say).</p>
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		<title>By: rey</title>
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		<dc:creator>rey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I&#039;m not surprised about his non-dispensationalism. I just thought he would be CT. 

I read his Matthew commentary some years ago but that&#039;s before really thinking about the authors who wrote the commentaries, so I don&#039;t own it. I have to correct that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I&#8217;m not surprised about his non-dispensationalism. I just thought he would be CT. </p>
<p>I read his Matthew commentary some years ago but that&#8217;s before really thinking about the authors who wrote the commentaries, so I don&#8217;t own it. I have to correct that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess another place he discusses it is on Jesus&#039; statements about fulfilling the law in the Sermon on the Mount (and his introductory comments on the Sermon on the Mount). This is both in his Matthew commentary and his book on the Sermon on the Mount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess another place he discusses it is on Jesus&#8217; statements about fulfilling the law in the Sermon on the Mount (and his introductory comments on the Sermon on the Mount). This is both in his Matthew commentary and his book on the Sermon on the Mount.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pierce</title>
		<link>http://biblearchive.com/blog/2010/apologetics/progressively-sneaky-terminology/comment-page-1/#comment-3825</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carson definitely is not a dispensationalist. His Matthew commentary is the best place to look on this stuff (round about ch.24). Part of why he doesn&#039;t want to get into this stuff is that he&#039;s just careful and doesn&#039;t want to say something that might be perceived to have implications that he doesn&#039;t intend.

Someone once told me (and I&#039;m not sure I believe it) that he&#039;s an amillenialist teaching at an institution that&#039;s premillenial and therefore not allowed to comment on or publish anything on that issue. The person who was claiming this said that he privately told them that he&#039;s sort of premillenial, but I don&#039;t think he&#039;s the type to sign a statement of faith that he doesn&#039;t accept fully and then agree not to publish or comment publicly on the issue he disagrees with Trinity about. But if that person is correct, then there&#039;s another reason he stays away from these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carson definitely is not a dispensationalist. His Matthew commentary is the best place to look on this stuff (round about ch.24). Part of why he doesn&#8217;t want to get into this stuff is that he&#8217;s just careful and doesn&#8217;t want to say something that might be perceived to have implications that he doesn&#8217;t intend.</p>
<p>Someone once told me (and I&#8217;m not sure I believe it) that he&#8217;s an amillenialist teaching at an institution that&#8217;s premillenial and therefore not allowed to comment on or publish anything on that issue. The person who was claiming this said that he privately told them that he&#8217;s sort of premillenial, but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s the type to sign a statement of faith that he doesn&#8217;t accept fully and then agree not to publish or comment publicly on the issue he disagrees with Trinity about. But if that person is correct, then there&#8217;s another reason he stays away from these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: rey</title>
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		<dc:creator>rey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D.A. Carson is NCT? 

I was listening to him speak one time and it got to the Q&amp;A bit. Someone asked him what he thinks about dispensationalism and the man, God bless him, gave this extremely careful answer which was a careful no answer.

Essentially he said that it wasn&#039;t fair to the audience or dispensationalism to answer the question in a five minute block but he did so in such a way that revealed (to me anyway) real depth in thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D.A. Carson is NCT? </p>
<p>I was listening to him speak one time and it got to the Q&#038;A bit. Someone asked him what he thinks about dispensationalism and the man, God bless him, gave this extremely careful answer which was a careful no answer.</p>
<p>Essentially he said that it wasn&#8217;t fair to the audience or dispensationalism to answer the question in a five minute block but he did so in such a way that revealed (to me anyway) real depth in thought.</p>
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