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		<title>Should Christians Rejoice Over The Death of the Wicked?</title>
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<p>After some (long) time of hunting, the American special forces have successfully found and killed Osama Bin Laden, fulfilling the mission that was implemented under the command of President Bush. As President Obama echoed the words of said president, the American resolve remained united, and an enemy was stopped. And with the preparation for the announcement came a wave of rejoicing: “Ding Dong, Osama’s dead” and “Obama got Osama” and “Thank God, Osama’s dead!”</p>
<p>In all this, an ethical question arises: should a Christian rejoice in the death of an enemy?</p>
<p>In this article I will argue that not only is it fine for a Christian to rejoice, but also it should be done—though not done in the gruesome way that I have seen it being done. I think it would also be helpful if the reader references my examination of an <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2008/study/psalms-137-dash-the-babies/">imprecatory Psalm</a> (that is, when the Psalmist prays for the destruction of his enemies) and the post on <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2007/study/christians-and-curses-how-should-we-pray/">Christian and Curses</a> and my post on <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2009/human/who-is-a-person/">the image of God</a>.</p>
<p>This article will be divided into four major sections: <strong>(1) </strong>Where Rejoicing is Wrong; <strong>(2) </strong>Where Rejoicing is Right; <strong>(3)</strong> Where Theology Meets Practice;  and <strong>(4)</strong> Conclusion. The first three major sections will each have a summarizing point to help the skimmers but I strongly encourage reading through them and the cited verses.</p>
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<p><strong>Where Rejoicing Is Wrong.</strong><br />
It must be frankly admitted that there is a reason why Christians struggle with this. We do have explicit passages that speak into this matter of rejoicing over the fall of an enemy. <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+24%3A17-18" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 24:17-18</a> says:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Do not rejoice when your enemy falls and do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles; or the Lord will see and be displeased and turn His anger away from him.”</p></blockquote>
<p>And the passage echoes other passages. Job, for instance, sees himself as righteous because he hasn’t rejoiced at the death of his enemies (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Job+31%3A29" title="Bible Gateway">Job 31:29</a>). Or when we see the wicked doing it, we automatically know it isn’t right (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Judges+16%3A25" title="Bible Gateway">Judges 16:25</a>; 2Sa 16:5-6; <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+35%3A13-15" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 35:13-15</a>; 42:10;  <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Micah+7%3A8" title="Bible Gateway">Micah 7:8</a>).</p>
<p>Indeed, the Proverbs go on to be careful with gloating at all over disaster (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+17%3A5" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 17:5</a>) and call for the righteous to care for their enemies—to clothe them and feed them (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+25%3A21" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 25:21</a>) something our Lord Himself says (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Lev+19%3A17" title="Bible Gateway">Lev 19:17</a>–18; <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Matt+5%3A44" title="Bible Gateway">Matt 5:44</a>) and which Paul repeats (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rom+12%3A14" title="Bible Gateway">Rom 12:14</a>).</p>
<p>This whole idea of not rejoicing for the wicked is evidenced when God says (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Ezekiel+18%3A23" title="Bible Gateway">Ezekiel 18:23</a>; 33:11)</p>
<blockquote><p>“As surely as I live,” declares the Lord God, “I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, oh house of Israel?”</p></blockquote>
<p>God would rather the people repent. Peter echoes this idea when he looks back and sees that God’s forbearance is the only reason people haven’t been wiped out (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=2+Peter+3%3A9" title="Bible Gateway">2 Peter 3:9</a>)</p>
<p><strong>Section 1 Summarizing Point:</strong> Obviously we see that rejoicing over the death of “my” enemy is wrong. It seems to indicate that the personal tramping on an individual’s enemy is not something that is applauded. We see that although God judges the wicked, he’s not happy about it but rather patient, affording time so that they may repent.</p>
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<p><strong>Where Rejoicing Is Right.</strong><br />
Now there are also plenty of passages which are overlooked. For example, <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+11%3A10" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 11:10</a> says</p>
<blockquote><p>When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices; they shout for joy when the wicked die</p></blockquote>
<p>The Proverb seems to be working with the antithesis of what happens when the wicked are in charge. When they’re in charge the righteous groan and are oppressed (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+11%3A11" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 11:11</a>; 28:12; 29:2,11 )</p>
<p>Indeed, this idea isn’t foreign to the rest of Scripture either.  For example we have in <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+58%3A10" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 58:10</a> this idea of the people corporately rejoicing in the death of their enemies</p>
<blockquote><p>The righteous will be glad when they are avenged, when they bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked.</p></blockquote>
<p>This bathing their feet in blood (battlefield imagery) happens elsewhere in the Psalms in case you’re wondering (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+68%3A23" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 68:23</a>). And lest we get ideas that this is something that merely happens and isn’t to be applauded, we have <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+91%3A8" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 91:8</a> making it an expectation, a final shutting up of the wicked (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+107%3A42" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 107:42</a>) . All of <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+52" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 52</a> seems to be an expectation for the righteous to witness the destruction of the wicked.</p>
<p>In <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Deuteronomy+32%3A43" title="Bible Gateway">Deuteronomy 32:43</a> we hear this clarion call to corporately rejoice:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rejoice, O nations, with his people, for he will avenge the blood of his servants; he will take vengeance on his enemies and make atonement for his land and people.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed, Jeremiah prays for it (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Jer+11%3A20" title="Bible Gateway">Jer 11:20</a>; 20:12).</p>
<p>We find the early church citing <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+2" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 2</a> as part of their corporate prayers after Peter and John were beaten (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Acts+4%3A23-30" title="Bible Gateway">Acts 4:23-30</a>) and they request that the Lord stretches out his hand to heal, perform signs and wonders in the name of God’s servant Jesus. This is interesting, because in <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+2" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 2</a>, the Lord God is laughing at the enemies of his anointed one (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+2%3A4" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 2:4</a>) because they stand there daring to revolt. When the early Church prays for God to perform wonders, it is recalling the wonders done before Pharaoh: powerful signs that prove that God, the creator of heaven and earth, is in charge.</p>
<p>Upon the destruction of Babylon the Great, we see a calls or the people of God, heaven itself, to rejoice over her destruction (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rev+18%3A20" title="Bible Gateway">Rev 18:20</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you saints and apostles and prophets, for God has pronounced judgment﻿  against her on your behalf!</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a call that is taken up elsewhere in the apocalypse (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rev+12%3A12" title="Bible Gateway">Rev 12:12</a> ) and obeyed in the <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rev+19%3A1-4" title="Bible Gateway">Rev 19:1-4</a> in heaven rejoicing over the destruction of their enemy. It’s not the first time that there is singing in heaven as we see in <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rev+15%3A3" title="Bible Gateway">Rev 15:3</a> the people singing the song of Moses.</p>
<p>Which immediately recalls two songs from the day of Moses. The song of Moses from <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Deuteronomy+32" title="Bible Gateway">Deuteronomy 32</a>where we have clauses of God defeating Israel’s enemies, and the Song of Moses and the Israelites from <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Exodus+15" title="Bible Gateway">Exodus 15</a> where Moses and the people sing and rejoice because the Lord has destroyed their enemies. It wouldn’t be the last time where the people of Israel rejoice over the death of their enemies (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Esther+8%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">Esther 8:15</a>;  <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=2+Kings+11%3A20" title="Bible Gateway">2 Kings 11:20</a> )</p>
<p><strong>Section 2 summarizing point:</strong> We can either conclude that there is a contradiction, or that the rejoicing in these passages is distinctly different from the rejoicing in the previous section. I think that the verses here reflect that, since it isn’t an individual rejoicing against his or her enemy, but an individual joining the corporate rejoicing against their corporate enemy. Rejoicing in this sense is apparently justified and expected. They also reflect that although God is not willing that the wicked perish, he does have the wicked perish and he expects his people to be happy about his activity.</p>
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<p><strong>Where Theology Meets Practice</strong><br />
I think we Protestants suffer from a very deistic view of reality, something that I applaud the Orthodox and the Roman Catholics for properly addressing (even if they fall short on much). Reality, say the Orthodox and the Roman Catholics, is not a two-tier house where you have This Physical Realm and then, the second floor with That Spiritual Realm. Reality is more like one floor where the spiritual and the physical co-exist. Now, they take this to a whole ‘nuther realm by having prayer for the dead and praying to God through icons—which all is wrong—but they make a good point. A point that the Psalter repeatedly makes: justice is not merely <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2011/eschatology/a-hellish-week/">the purview of That Spiritual Realm</a>. The Justice of God definitively begins here, in This Physical Realm because it is all (yes, all) God’s reality.</p>
<p>So you’ll have Paul looking at sinful humans acting in accordance with their lusts and saying that the wrath of God is (currently) evident (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Romans+1" title="Bible Gateway">Romans 1</a>). Or you’ll have Paul warning believers to obey their <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2007/church/the-measure-of-faith-toward-the-government/">governing body</a> because it is God’s instrument and it properly carries the sword of wrath against injustice (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Romans+13" title="Bible Gateway">Romans 13</a>).</p>
<p>And when you have judgment poured out against Israel via the Assyrians or the Babylonians, we find that God is speaking saying that this is his judgment—a foreign people attacking the Israelites like a wielded axe. These foreigners are an instrument in his hand for wrath. So you’ll have the entire book of Hosea speaking about the righteous surviving God’s wrath not so much in some future spiritual realm but right then, holding on to the Lord’s salvation.</p>
<p>The idea of God’s justice is something that results not only in Angels chanting, or people rejoicing, but the very physical creation yearns for it (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Romans+8" title="Bible Gateway">Romans 8</a>) and rejoices when it happens. So you’ll see a great pairing of Psalms, with one calling for the Lord to stamp down the wicked (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+94" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 94</a>), the Psalmist depending on the Lord to do it, and then (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+95" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 95</a> and 96) the mountains and oceans rejoicing when it does happen.</p>
<p>Of course, a point that I made in a previous post still stands: that when imprecation is leveled against the Psalmists’ enemies, it is almost always coupled with self-examination. The reason is that justice is a thematic thread throughout the Psalter—and all of Scripture. There is a constant expectation for the balancing of scales; but when it happens in the Now, there is rejoicing: something that the section up above reflected quite concisely.</p>
<p>You’ll see God saying things like <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Ezekiel+18%3A32" title="Bible Gateway">Ezekiel 18:32</a> where he doesn’t rejoice in the death of anyone—and yet he still has people die and be punished because he judges the earth (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+58%3A11" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 58:11</a>). We hear <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Lamentations+3%3A33" title="Bible Gateway">Lamentations 3:33</a> where he doesn’t willingly bring affliction or grief to the children of Men and we have the entire book of Job where God was willing to bring affliction to a child of men.</p>
<p>The problem then becomes one of applying theology to our practical situation. Some Christians take <strong>Section 1 </strong>Passages and ignore <strong>Section 2</strong> Passages, or worse, relegate<strong> Section 2</strong> passages to some later day. They forget that the call in the book of Proverbs, is not one so much of law (which we Christians tend to gravitate toward—check out my article on the <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2010/apologetics/to-train-up-a-child-an-examination-of-the-pearl-method/">Pearl Method</a>) but one for wisdom. This is why you have apparently contradictory Proverbs back to back (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+26%3A4-5" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 26:4-5</a>) and contradictory Proverbs separated by space (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+11%3A10" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 11:10</a>; 24:17). It calls for some serious wisdom on when to implement one over the other; and quite frankly it is sometimes just impossible. The nature of wisdom literature is to paint two extremes so as to reflect on the differences. It is either Lady Wisdom or Harlot Foolishness. It is either Life or it is death.</p>
<p>So when you read <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+21%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 21:15</a></p>
<blockquote><p>When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers.</p></blockquote>
<p>It’s not a command, nor is it something that will definitely happen, but it paints a picture of the evildoers position against justice being done.</p>
<p>And when you read <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+24%3A19-20" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 24:19-20</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Do not fret because of evildoers or be envious of the wicked; for there will be no future for the evil man; the lamp of the wicked will be put out</p></blockquote>
<p>It might be read as a promise, but it should properly refer to the activity of the wise man in relation to the wave of wickedness.</p>
<p><strong>Summarizing Point:</strong> Putting our theology to practice consists of a Biblical robustness that necessarily reaches beyond mere proof-texting. We can’t merely go with the romanticized internal feelings of something not feeling right, or with the rationalistic mentality of something looking like what evil people do. We need to examine a large swath of passages and see how they correlate and a wide variety of circumstances thus allowing God to say what God wishes to be said. God is supreme, and He is judge, and the Kingdoms of the World, when they do right, do right according to His will and should be applauded for that. When they do wrong, even if it is in accordance to his plans, they always are blamed because they willingly did wrong.</p>
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<p><strong>Concluding Points.</strong><br />
So we have passages that speak of individuals not rejoicing over the death of their personal enemies and passages speaking of corporate rejoicing over the death of their corporate enemies. We have an understanding that God judges in the future, but that we see his judgment and justice sometimes right now in the present—and that rejoicing is expected in these situations. But at this point we have to make some mental ties while avoiding extremes.</p>
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<li> <strong>One extreme is to become holier than God.</strong> Since the sinner has been punished, we should weep and pray for his soul or some such thing. It is appointed for man to die—and if his life is cut off via judgment of his instrument. It is in this world that God has cut the man off to introduce him to judgment. End of opportunity for repentance. A decision has been made. If it happens in the house of God with certain sins, suggests John, what makes us think that the God who even numbers the hairs on heads doesn’t act this way in reality? All of Scripture tells us he does (re-read the book of Daniel for instance). Trying to be holier than God is ultimately idolatrous. God judged, we must agree that He has done right, and we should be happy about that.</li>
<li> <strong>Another extreme is to become holier than other believers in not-rejoicing.</strong> Christians are told to weep with the mourners and rejoice with the rejoicers but it also tells us to be careful when we do either. If there is a legitimate time for mourning, it is actually wrong to look at fellow tear-shedders as doing something morally wrong.  Christians should be incredibly leery of merely finding a proof-text to justify judgment of fellow believers when there is a very deep theological grid-work underlying all of it.</li>
<li> <strong>And yet another extreme is to revel in rejoicing.</strong> We’re believers who have been called to live where we are (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Cor+7" title="Bible Gateway">1 Cor 7</a>) but that doesn’t mean that we are to be carried away in the actions and activity of the world around us. John tells us that the World System is antithetical to the Christian even while Paul tells us that the <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2008/church/should-christians-vote/">World’s Systems</a> have been <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2008/current-affairs/how-should-a-christian-act-under-a-president-he-didnt-want/">established</a> by God. To do (horrid) things like raising a decapitated head of one’s enemies is just really missing the point of both the image of God and God’s own justice.</li>
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<p>All of this tells me that when the enemy of the People is judged by God, cut off, and justice is served: the Lord has done right; the people should rejoice. Just like the Song of Moses rejoices in the cutting off of enemies, there is a rejoicing that should go hand in hand with justice being served. It is not to be avoided merely on the grounds that the Wicked also rejoice in wrongdoing—that just means that they have perverted something that is proper and right.</p>
<p>It might be a sticker situation deciding Who Are The Wicked and Who Aren’t The Wicked but that goes beyond the boundaries of it being okay or not to rejoice. I think that Hitler was obviously “The Wicked” even if the people being killed were sinners. I think that Stalin was obviously “The Wicked” even if the people being killed were unrighteous. In each of those cases, the unrighteous become “The Innocent” that can rightly bring a charge against “The Wicked” and demand a balancing of the scales. In both cases, I think it is right for the people to rejoice over the death of the wicked, but not in some horridly gruesome way (like banners with decapitated heads).</p>
<p>Justice, which belongs to God, triumphed and we should rejoice in that. It happened in time, right now, and that is a foretaste of a future balancing of scales where the God of heaven surely does right and every mouth is shut. We shouldn’t look down on fellow Christians that are rejoicing, but we also shouldn’t become bloodthirsty in our rejoicing.</p>
<p>We should, I think, act wisely in even this and realize that a robust theological foundation is much broader and all-encompassing than a mere proof-text or a blanket statement. One day, we will definitely rejoice when every knee bows, by hook or by crook, to the seated and reigning King—but in the present we can rejoice when we get a foretaste of a government that functions correctly.</p>
<p>Now, what about Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden: should we rejoice that justice has been served against these men? Yes, I think we should. We shouldn’t be morbidly happy about it, but we should say that a government has properly used it’s God-given sword and be happy about that. We shouldn’t be morbidly happy with gruesome depictions of the dead, but we should stand with those who mourned and say “Yes, God’s arm can be seen in this.”</p>

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		<title>To Train Up A Child: An Examination of the Pearl Method</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not a book review; this is an examination of a child rearing method, the theology that undergirds it, and the execution of the practice. This will be long. If you want to ignore my examinations and rebuttals you can scroll to the end and be done with it—but I would rather you read [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a book review; this is an examination of a child rearing method, the theology that undergirds it, and the execution of the practice. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">This will be long.</span> If you want to ignore my examinations and rebuttals you can scroll to the end and be done with it—but I would rather you read all of this. The end of the post will also contain several links of importance.</p>
<p>Up front: a warning—this will not be the last time this sort of examination has to come up.</p>
<p>Parents are like soldiers in the trenches. They&#8217;re afraid. They&#8217;re living in the moment. They&#8217;re wondering if they&#8217;re doing wrong and what they could do better while trying to discover what their parents did right (and wrong) in their own experience. Quick fix books, especially the short and easy to read variety, will keep showing up on the web and in bookstores. For Christian parents, these books will cite Scripture and give a façade of being Biblically grounded. The spurious glitter of their treasures of pseudo-wisdom will fade, but sometimes not before doing incalculable damage.</p>
<p>The current culprit is Michael and Debi Pearl&#8217;s <em>To Train Up A Child.</em> Their ministry (No Greater Joy) is known within individual fundamentalist circles for their training methods and some of their other writings regarding the marriage relationship. Up front: their book and their teaching is dangerous. Not only is it Biblically naïve, it is theologically confused and potentially damaging, at the very least, physically and mentally.</p>
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<p><strong>Warning: Use this Post Properly</strong><br />
<span style="text-decoration: underline;">If you are planning to read through this post, note that some of the earlier sections do not contain my opinions. I will cite the Pearls, I will underscore what they teach, which verses they cite and in what context, and try to read the lines and between them to see the theological grid work their ideas are based on. DO NOT THINK THAT I AM ENDORSING THEIR POSITIONS IN THESE EARLIER SECTIONS; I&#8217;M ONLY SUMMARIZING.</span><strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>What They Teach</strong><br />
The Pearl&#8217;s teach that their method isn&#8217;t technically a method at all, just the Biblical model seen in reality; evidenced as working in their own practice.</p>
<blockquote><p>You may have strong feelings that prevent you from spanking your child, but it is ignorance to claim that love is your motive. The God who made little children, and therefore knows what is best for them, has provided them parents to employ the rod in training up their children. To refrain from doing so, based on a claim of love, is an indictment against God himself. Your actions declare that either God does not desire what is best for your child or you know better than him. (pg 38)</p></blockquote>
<p>This method (which includes Pearl training, the fact of homeschooling, etc) is a requirement that is taught in the Bible.</p>
<blockquote>
<p class="style1">If you are seeking to avoid the rod because you are an emotional coward or you are a product of contemporary philosophy, then not obeying God in this matter should not be considered an option. The Word of God teaches us the best method of child training, and proper use of the rod is a part of that program. Furthermore, if you abstain from use of the rod because you believe there is a better way, then you have revealed a fundamental flaw in your thinking that will leave a giant hole in any method you adopt. (<a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive/1999/july/01/rodless-training/" target="_blank">Online</a> )</p>
<p>But it is also a requirement that is mandated by the fact that morals are still being formed in the child.</p>
<p>From birth , parents must assume control and accountability for the moral development of their children. During the early years, we certainly do not want to destroy the child&#8217;s natural drives, but we must constrain him to exercise temperance and self-control. The parents&#8217; role is not that of policemen , but more like that of the Holy Spirit. When a child has his sails full of wind (strong drives), but no compass (moral discernment), his parents must serve as his compass and navigator. When a child is incapable of holding moral values, parental training and example will be his &#8220;standard&#8221;. Before he can DECIDE to do good, his parents must CONDITION him to do good. There was a time in the womb when the child&#8217;s mother breathed for him, ate for him, and handled his waste. Likewise, in the moral realm, until the child&#8217;s reason and moral faculties develop to the point of independent operation, parents must be the voice of his fetal conscience. Parents must provide initiative and instill a set of values (pg 18)</p></blockquote>
<p>They must be taught at home by their parents.</p>
<blockquote><p>Never even consider sending your children to private Christian schools, much less the public, automaton factories. Whether a classroom is based completely on Christian education or on secular principles is not the issue…God didn&#8217;t make teenage boys and girls to sit together in a classroom every day while real life outside passes them by. (pg 101)</p></blockquote>
<p>God fearing Christians should be concerned about raising their children (specifically with this Biblical method.) Doing otherwise will result in children that don&#8217;t obey their parents, that are seeking their own pleasure, that ultimately rule over their parents and eventually will be lost as they train in answering to no one beyond themselves.</p>
<blockquote><p>Once he learns that the reward of a tantrum is a swift, forceful spanking, he will NEVER throw another fit….If a parent starts at infancy, discouraging the first crying demands, the child will never develop the habit (pg 84)</p></blockquote>
<p>So the goal is to have children that respond immediately to command for their own good. The parent wants to break down their will, and especially their will to dominate, by making them obedient followers of their parental authority thus resulting in joy (for themselves), blessing (to their parents), and peace (in the household).</p>
<p>The rod is not to be used only for punishment (after the fact) but for training (before the fact).</p>
<blockquote><p>This book is not about discipline, nor problem children. The emphasis is on the training of a child before the need for discipline arises. It is apparent that, though they expect obedience, most parents never attempt to train their child to obey. They wait until his behavior becomes unbearable and then explode. (introduction)</p></blockquote>
<p>So whereas many parents keep issuing warnings and then, when they get annoyed enough, they lash out against the child in punishment, the Pearls say that the training is done up front in a calm voice and situation.</p>
<blockquote><p>Training is not discipline. Discipline is the &#8220;damage control&#8221; part of training, but is insufficient in itself to effect proper behavior. Training is the conditioning of the child&#8217;s mind before the crisis arises. It is preparation for future, instant, unquestioning obedience. (pg 4)</p></blockquote>
<p>The other method merely results in children who know how far is too far—they&#8217;re training the parents and themselves to know when they shouldn&#8217;t push it. But if training is done properly, the child is commanded up front and the command is emphasized with the rod so that they can be obedient at all times.<strong></strong></p>
<p>Dogs can be trained, Soldiers obey their leaders therefore children should in like manner be trained.</p>
<blockquote><p>The military uses real bullets in training men to avoid enemy fire. Replacing the rod with hollow threats would be to your children like replacing live bullets with blanks. It would get the men killed later in battle. (p 53)</p>
<p>An athlete trains before he competes. Animals, including wild ones, are conditioned to respond to the trainer&#8217;s voice command. (p 5).</p></blockquote>
<p>Children need to be trained with the rod to realize the consequences up front and sometimes this means personal learning/exposure. For example, in chapter 10 — 14, the Pearls offer a bunch of examples of quick, decisive training. Chapter 10, specifically has these examples of things they did: Gun Safety? Place an old empty gun within arm&#8217;s reach a child , say &#8220;No&#8221; then have hand-switching sessions. Hot stove? Heat up the stove till it&#8217;s hot to the touch; open the door to get them attracted to the flames. As they run to the door to grab it say &#8220;Hot!&#8221; and the kid winds up learning in one try that it is hot. Pond out back? Walk the kid over to the pond and stay behind them as they lean over it and let them fall in. With one child, he actually had to nudge the kid in.</p>
<p>Punishment must always be for things that are punishable. If a child has been fed, slept, has toys, has used the potty and isn&#8217;t in pain then the parent knows that there is no reason for the child to be crying. This can be punished. If one of those necessary things are in place (say, the child is tired) then put the child to bed; don&#8217;t punish him. But otherwise, the child, no matter the age, must be trained with the rod—not your hand.</p>
<blockquote><p>As a rule, do not use your hand. Hands are for loving and helping. If an adult swings his or her hand fast enough to cause pain to the surface of the skin, there is a danger of damaging bones and joints. The most painful nerves are just under the surface of the skin. A swift swat with a light, flexible instrument will sting without bruising or causing internal damage. Many people are using a section of ¼ inch plumber&#8217;s supply line as a spanking instrument. It will fit in your purse or hang around you neck. You can buy them for under $1.00 at Home Depot or any hardware store. They come cheaper by the dozen and can be widely distributed in every room and vehicle. Just the high profile of their accessibility keeps the kids in line. (<a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive/2001/october/01/in-defense-of-biblical-chastisement-part-2/" target="_blank">online</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Which Scripture They Cite </strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Evidence that God entrusted Abraham with the promise with the expectation that Abraham would train his children <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Gen+18%3A19" title="Bible Gateway">Gen 18:19</a> (p 117)<strong></strong></li>
<li>Desires must be controlled else the sowing of satisfying those desires becomes awful at a later date <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+23%3A2" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 23:2</a>, <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Gal+6%3A7" title="Bible Gateway">Gal 6:7,8</a> (pg 93)</li>
<li>Guarding the heart of a child against having a bad attitude by eradicating the bad attitude. <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+23%3A7" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 23:7</a> an 4:23  (pg 81, 87)</li>
<li>The (favorable) example of a three year old girl who beats their doll with such admonishments like &#8220;stop it. No crying.&#8221; (Switch, switch, switch) then praising the doll for now being happy. <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+23%3A7" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 23:7</a> (pg 65)</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Sam+15%3A23" title="Bible Gateway">1 Sam 15:23</a>, child&#8217;s rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft (pg 55)</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Gal+3%3A24" title="Bible Gateway">Gal 3:24</a> strictly enforcing the rules teaches respect of the Lawgiver to bring to Christ (pg 54). The rod increases the seriousness of the moral law (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+9%3A10" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 9:10</a>) because there is no fear of God in their eyes (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rom+3%3A18" title="Bible Gateway">Rom 3:18</a>). Fear is reserved for God (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Luke+12%3A5" title="Bible Gateway">Luke 12:5</a>; <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Pet+2%3A17" title="Bible Gateway">1 Pet 2:17</a>). Military uses real bullets to properly train soldiers (pg 53)</li>
<li>Rod accompanied with instruction <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+29%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 29:15</a> (pg 52)</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Ps+23%3A4" title="Bible Gateway">Ps 23:4, 2</a> <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Sam+7%3A14" title="Bible Gateway">Sam 7:14</a>, <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+89%3A32" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 89:32</a>  The rod is a comfort for the child (p 46). <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+19%3A18" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 19:18</a> for giving hope to a rebellious child and to give rest to you and the entire household <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+29%3A17" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 29:17</a> (pg 47)</li>
<li>Stripes are to the soul what the healing blood is to the wound (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Heb+12%3A6" title="Bible Gateway">Heb 12:6</a>) so a child properly spanked is healed in the soul and restored to wholeness of Spirit (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+23%3A13" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 23:13,14</a>)</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Eph+5%3A29" title="Bible Gateway">Eph 5:29</a> everyone loves themselves and think in terms of what benefits us (pg 43) regarding guilt and self-loathing</li>
<li>The child is in a body of infirm flesh with natural lusts (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Deut+12%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">Deut 12:15</a>) that entice him (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=James+1%3A14" title="Bible Gateway">James 1:14,15</a>). They go astray as soon as they are born (psalm 58:3). God doesn&#8217;t count his lies as sin at this early age (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=James+4%3A17" title="Bible Gateway">James 4:17</a>, <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rom+5%3A13" title="Bible Gateway">Rom 5:13</a>)The rod is your divine enforcer (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+29%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 29:15</a>) pg 42</li>
<li>God spanks his children (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Heb+12%3A6-11" title="Bible Gateway">Heb 12:6-11</a>) as a sign of love (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+13%3A24" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 13:24</a>) pg 40-41</li>
<li>The authority of God&#8217;s word in spanking. The same God who said <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Mark+10%3A14" title="Bible Gateway">Mark 10:14</a> says <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+19%3A18" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 19:18</a>; <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+13%3A24" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 13:24</a>; <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+22%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 22:15</a>; <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+23%3A13-14" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 23:13-14</a>; <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+29%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 29:15</a>; <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+29%3A17" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 29:17</a>. If you love him you must spank him (Pg 38)</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Eph+6%3A4" title="Bible Gateway">Eph 6:4</a> as an example of teasing one&#8217;s children (pg 33) and creating a bully.</li>
<li>Every child faces his own tree of knowledge (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Deut+1%3A39" title="Bible Gateway">Deut 1:39</a>) and everyone eats of that tree. God won&#8217;t condemn a child until he has grown into that state (p 20) and after they eat they are categorized as sinful flesh (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rom+8%3A3" title="Bible Gateway">Rom 8:3</a>). Therefore parents must bring the child&#8217;s flesh into complete subjection. (p20-21)</li>
<li>The child leaves the protection of your sanctification and stand alone in the light of his conscience (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Cor+7%3A14" title="Bible Gateway">1 Cor 7:14</a>) p19</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+22%3A6" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 22:6</a> Training not Discipline by highlighting commands with the rod (p 4)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>What are Their Theological Underpinnings<br />
</strong>The theological underpinnings are a bit difficult to nail down since the Pearls decry labels while citing what the label believes and how they are not that. They obviously think that all flesh is sinful so that the natural bent of a person is towards sinfulness and yet they don&#8217;t think this is necessarily something that is culpable.</p>
<blockquote><p>I have taught my son the Word of God long before I thought he would need to be armed against sin. I don&#8217;t want him to go into battle with an unloaded gun. Instead of bringing us shame or grief, our son has brought to us great joy. I am proud of the boy he is, and am looking forward to the man I will help him become.  (<a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/bible-teaching/article-display/archive/2008/june/05/whom-shall-he-make-to-undestand-doctrine/" target="_blank">Online</a> )</p></blockquote>
<p>They also think that God doesn&#8217;t hold children accountable before a certain individually focused moment. At that moment each child faces his own tree of knowledge of good and evil and then knowingly chooses to sin. When they do their flesh is then categorized as actual sinful flesh—but before that they had the bend that later becomes sinful if often gratified.</p>
<blockquote><p>The root of all sin is found in the runaway indulgence of God given desires. Although the child may not have matured to the point of accountability, still, his unrestrained indulgence is the very essence of future sinfulness. (p 17)</p></blockquote>
<p>The child&#8217;s brain can be trained to submit to authority to make that decision moment lean favorably—otherwise children would go down a very dark path indeed.<strong></strong></p>
<p>Training a child in this manner informs the child that he/she is not the master—the parent is.</p>
<blockquote><p>For a little while, God has placed the soul of your child under your tutelage. Your home is a moral workshop where you help God prepare your child for heavenly citizenship. The developing child benefits from growing up in a home that mimics the government of God (pg 53)</p></blockquote>
<p>When a parent subjects themselves to the authority of the child, he/she functions as the authoritative chooser who controls them to satisfy him/herself. This gets them used to functioning without an authority and therefore makes their later decision all the more likely to end in catastrophe.</p>
<p>This all goes back to the garden. Adam and Eve failed when they sinned but beforehand they had God given pleasure seeking abilities</p>
<blockquote><p>Even before Adam and Eve sinned, the element in their natures that drew them to disobedience was a desire for pleasure—the pleasure of taste, the pleasure of sight, and the pleasure of mental ascendancy. God created us with a desire for pleasure, something that is an essential part of his nature. God seeks the pleasure of his own will. Pleasure in any form is the elementary motivation of the human heart. (<a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive/2000/september/01/the-will-to-dominate/" target="_blank">Online</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Now this pleasure isn&#8217;t bad in itself.</p>
<blockquote><p>God created us to exist in a constant state of desire and appetite. The tension in this continuous struggle provides the background for moral development. This is most apparent in the small child. He desires food, water, warmth, companionship, entertainment, and a dry diaper. God endowed him with strong compulsions for taste, smell, hear, see, and a desire to touch and feel &#8220;almost everything&#8221;. (pg 15)</p></blockquote>
<p>But when it is constantly sated, the child develops a behavior that seeks self-satisfaction—the desire to dominate. Their spiritual compass had no guidance (which is the purview of the parent). Anger, hostility and so forth from the child are signs that the child is not submitting to the authority placed over them because they want to satisfy their own desires because they are gods in their own eyes.</p>
<blockquote><p>The bottom line you must recognize is that the infant is born with all of the passions of body but with no capacity for self-restraint. (<a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive/1999/july/01/rodless-training/" target="_blank">Online</a> )</p></blockquote>
<p>So the fact that children are disciplined with a device (be it a switch, rod, whatever), it is specifically to train them to submit to authority above them so that they may, at some near-later date, subject themselves to the Ultimate Authority who is God.</p>
<blockquote><p>Nature is controlled by fixed laws. If a child violates them he may break bones, get burned, drown, poison his body, or suffer harm in a thousand ways. The laws of nature must be discovered and respected. In the natural world all actions have consequences. Nature never forgives. If parents allow a child to break the laws of nature, but somehow protect him from suffering any consequences, they would be communicating a false sense of reality.</p>
<p>In their formative years, proper application of the rod will condition children to believe there is a day of certain reckoning, in this life and in the next. The rod makes better citizens.</p>
<p>Children raised in homes run by the rule of law, enforced with the rod, understand the concept of law and accept their duty to submit to it. To appreciate the laws of God and his jurisdiction, a child must first respect the lesser laws that govern his daily life.</p>
<p>Without the rod you are giving the child a false concept of the nature of God.</p>
<p>Though children cannot understand coming judgment, they must be trained to make decisions with consequences in mind. If you allow the child several years of living without consequences, it is difficult for him to ever accept the truths of coming judgment, the character of God, and the nature of sin.</p>
<p>The sure application of the rod will sober a child and cause him to give very serious thought to his conduct and attitude.</p>
<p>When a child is bound in self-blame and low self-esteem, parents are not helpless. God has given them the gift of the rod. The rod can bring repentance, but it goes much deeper than that. The rod in the hands of a righteous authority will supply the child&#8217;s soul with that moment of judgment that he feels he so deserves</p>
<p>If God&#8217;s love is expressed by the &#8220;scourging&#8221; He gives, then can we not love our children enough to chasten them unto holiness? I heard one rebellious teenager longingly say, &#8220;If they only loved me enough to whip me.&#8221;</p>
<p>A child that has been timely and properly chastened for his offense will be purged of his guilt and will feel that he has paid his due and that the court is satisfied. (<a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/bible-teaching/article-display/archive/2001/may/01/in-defense-of-biblical-chastisement-part-1" target="_blank">Online</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>Now this time of decision isn&#8217;t final. It is very possible for children to come to a time of decision, decide for the Lord, be saved, but then fall away.  In such a scenario the child would never be saved again.</p>
<blockquote><p>My doctrine is better summed up as &#8220;Once lost, once saved, twice lost, never saved again,&#8221; but that is for another time. Get my messages on the Security of the Believer, as they address that subject in a good bit of detail. (<a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/bible-teaching/article-display/archive/2010/february/08/the-kingdom-of-god-is-not-the-kingdom-of-heaven/" target="_blank">Online</a> )</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>The Error of Their Scripture Usage</strong><br />
I don&#8217;t trust when someone cites Scripture and tends to (A) decontextualize it, (B) woodenly literalize it to justify a point, (C) build a theology mostly from the book of Proverbs, (D) ignore the cultural milieu: the Pearl&#8217;s do all four.</p>
<p>I believe all Scripture is infallible and inerrant—they are the words God wanted recorded and they are true. But I also think that Scripture was made in such a way as to have very nuanced application without solely jumping to the woodenly literal meaning.</p>
<p>Standard literary devices have to be taken into place. Things like metaphor, simile and analogy have to be taken into place. Genre has to be considered. Of course, the original audience has to be considered.</p>
<p>For example, I don&#8217;t see the Pearl&#8217;s taking <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Deut.+21%3A18" title="Bible Gateway">Deut. 21:18</a>—22 as a mandate for punishing a child but the text is pretty explicit. They might try to get around it by saying that that passage was for the Jew  but then why the distinction from the Proverbs that were written by the Jew for a Jewish society? Well, they may try to get around that by saying that there&#8217;s direct correlation to the Gentile believer in the proverbs as it speaks directly to our situation but then, I think they&#8217;re still mistaken with the Genre of the Proverbs.</p>
<p>The Proverbs are wisdom sayings, they&#8217;re not merely mandates. That means that they find application in time during specific situations, and those who employ them properly are in fact revealing wisdom in their usage.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;ll find proverbs but next to each other that are widely contradictory:</p>
<blockquote><p><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+26%3A4" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 26:4</a> Do not answer a fool according to his folly</p>
<p><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+26%3A5" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 26:5</a> Answer a fool according to his folly</p></blockquote>
<p>And yet they are not to be read as two commands, but as two wisdom passages that apply in different situations. Sometimes you have to answer a fool according to his folly; other times you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It is a categorical mistake to take the book of Proverbs as a list of commands when the Proverbs themselves don&#8217;t present themselves to be: they are, in contrast, the riddles employed by the wise, the young, the unlearned and the up and coming to become wiser (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Prov+1" title="Bible Gateway">Prov 1</a>). If they were a list of commends then the book would be generally teaching the futility of dealing with fools and, ultimately, you shouldn&#8217;t even bother. For example:</p>
<blockquote><p><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+27%3A22" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 27:22</a> Though you pound a fool in a mortar with a pestle along with crushed grain, his foolishness will not depart from him.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed, with the Pearl Methodology, I can actually use passages like above to build a theology that makes the child out to be a fool who can be beaten to no avail, so why bother.</p>
<p>Decontextualization adds to the Pearl Methodology as they quote passages like <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Eph+6%3A4" title="Bible Gateway">Eph 6:4</a> as an example of teasing one&#8217;s children (pg 33) and creating a bully—but is that what Paul is saying? Why not look at the similar exhortation in <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Col+3%3A21" title="Bible Gateway">Col 3:21</a> to see that perhaps something is going on with the discipline that isn&#8217;t making bullies but rather destroying the goal of the instruction? In context (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Eph+6%3A9" title="Bible Gateway">Eph 6:9</a>) and (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Col+4%3A1" title="Bible Gateway">Col 4:1</a>) it seems to mean that the parental authority is to be properly used: avoiding unnecessary harshness, and unnecessary beatings, and unnecessary demands, and unnecessary restrictions—all which the Pearl&#8217;s employ under the ridiculous category of training.</p>
<p>Pages 67-68 relates a story of Deb Pearl babysitting (on the condition that they have full liberty to discipline and train). A fifteen month old was grumpy and, according to the Pearl&#8217;s, was &#8220;highly overindulged and showed it&#8221;. Deb had all the children on the table for a snack and the little boy wouldn&#8217;t take the food, throwing it to the floor. Deb Pearl, picked him up and put him in a chair and put a roller skate upside down and spun a wheel saying &#8220;See, turn the wheels.&#8221; And the boy said no. She repeated it. He said no. She got the switch (&#8220;twelve inches long and about the diameter of a small noodle&#8221;) and playfully said &#8220;Turn the wheels&#8221;. Again defiance. So she, knowing &#8220;he fully understood it to be a command&#8221;, repeated the command and upon his disobedience, she &#8220;switched his leg&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>After ten acts of stubborn defiance, followed by ten switchings, he surrendered his will to one higher than himself. In rolling the wheels, he did what every human being must do—he humbled himself before the highest authority and admitted that his interests are not paramount.</p></blockquote>
<p>Later, Deb saw he was turning the wheels on the roller skate and laughing with the other children without the surly attitude.</p>
<blockquote><p>The &#8220;rod&#8221; had lived up to its Biblical promise.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Scriptures are much more nuanced. Sometimes chastisement is brought in the form of a parable, sometimes it is brought in the form of a lie, sometimes in the form of a beating, at other times in the form of persecution, at other times in the form of disease, at other times in the form of embarrassing blessing of another. Extremely nuanced and wisely applied to a situation that mandates chastisement. The Pearl&#8217;s method, on the other hand, is abusive folly which needlessly provokes children, using Scriptures as a club to justify their method and sometimes stumbling across correct statements while actually destroying what Scripture teaches.</p>
<p><strong>The Error of Their Theology</strong><br />
Theology has some real practical ramifications. Some theologies have no effect on someone&#8217;s practice—a person believes it and goes merrily on their way doing what they normally do. There are not many theologies like that, but there&#8217;s some.  Most theologies though have some practical ramifications. One can have a field day just exploring how off the Pearl&#8217;s theology is, but I will only limit my comments to a few of them.</p>
<p><strong>Humanity and Sin</strong>: If you have a theology of what being human necessarily entails you will most likely act on that theology carrying out your humanity. If you have a theology of what sin necessarily entails you most likely will act on that theology trying to spurn (or embrace) sin.</p>
<p>The Pearl&#8217;s circle of sin has a lot of overlap into what it is to be human. That means that there are certain things that are fine for human beings but are the groundwork for sinful desires—therefore they must be tightened before that stage.</p>
<p>Scriptures teach that sin is much more pervasive but yet much less capable of being purged. We do good, yes (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Acts+10" title="Bible Gateway">Acts 10</a>), and good that is praised by God—but there is no good that attains to the glory and perfection of God (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Romans+3" title="Bible Gateway">Romans 3</a>). Ultimately everyone falls short. It&#8217;s not that our good is sin, not at all; it is that our good is done apart from God for the glory of self (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rom+1" title="Bible Gateway">Rom 1, 2</a>) in rebellion against God. So also our evil. We are altogether acting in opposition to God.</p>
<p>The Pearls, believing that our desires and nature are the groundwork for sin to blossom in, seek to till our desires and nature until it can (somehow) refuse to go down that sinful path. But Paul already illustrated to types of sinners: those who fly down the road of depravity exulting in their autonomy, and those who are morally upright standing on the side of God but in just as bad a rebellion.</p>
<p>This means that, sorry Pearls, (1) children are under the system of Sin if they had those desires or not and (2) they know it, even if only peripherally (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Romans+1" title="Bible Gateway">Romans 1</a>). Sure, these children are still dependant on the grace of God, whether they make evil after evil decisions or good after good decisions.</p>
<p><strong>Grace and Mercy:</strong> The Pearl&#8217;s seem to have some concept of grace. They have examples of a Michael who snipped a string of connection his son and how he went back to retie that string of connectivity—it was a beautiful example. But any real teaching on mercy and grace seems to be extremely foreign to their methodology, which is strange since they purport to be Biblical and in light of the Gospel, we&#8217;re not to be lights of Law but Lights that reflect Christ by whom came grace upon grace and truth upon truth. There&#8217;s a profound richness to that which they don&#8217;t even touch on as they rear children to obey, submit to the greater authority, bring to bear God&#8217;s divine moral law, etc.</p>
<p>Of course, they deny this by saying their method teaches grace.</p>
<blockquote><p>The end a Christian has in view for his children is not simply submission to the rule of law, but that the child should understand the grace of God. Only through the naked &#8220;sword&#8217; of the law are we pressed into an understanding of grace. The law is &#8220;our schoolmaster to bring us until Christ&#8221; (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Gal+3%3A24" title="Bible Gateway">Gal 3:24</a>). God could not show Himself on Mount Calvary until He first showed Himself on Mount Sinai.</p>
<p>By strictly enforcing the rules of the household through legislation, accountability, and punishment, you not only teach your children to fear and respect the Lawgiver, but you create opportunities to demonstrate grace. What a sacred and wonderful responsibility! (p 54)</p></blockquote>
<p>But one is hard pressed to see how. The parent must remain consistent in the Pearl method (p 122), not being consistent might result in a hell-bound child, this is the God given responsibility of the parent. Indeed, their training sessions are so necessary under the Pearl&#8217;s Law that I don&#8217;t think they can make room for mercy or grace. The Pearls don&#8217;t help us out by explaining how they are revealing mercy and grace beyond the fact that the parent is teaching the weightiness of Law. But, when <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Galatians+3" title="Bible Gateway">Galatians 3</a> is seen in context, the Law being a schoolmaster is actually teaching those under it that they can&#8217;t survive under that system, that they need God&#8217;s grace, that they need Christ to do anything. That would mean that the parent&#8217;s role is not really pointing out to grace at all but breaking down the child so they see the hopelessness of their situation which would be a real strange interpretation of teaching the child the way he should go (ie: away from mom and dad who are complete unmerciful and ungracious!).</p>
<p><strong>Age of Accountability:</strong> I think it&#8217;s possible that there is an age of accountability. For example, maybe Bathsheba&#8217;s son goes to heaven (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=2+Samuel+12%3A21-23" title="Bible Gateway">2 Samuel 12:21-23</a>); God had concern for the innocents of Ninevah (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Jonah+4%3A11" title="Bible Gateway">Jonah 4:11</a>); Christ made provision for sin for the world so that He can act on their behalf (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+John+2%3A2" title="Bible Gateway">1 John 2:2</a>)ensuring that Christ is the only way (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=John+14%3A6" title="Bible Gateway">John 14:6</a>). Because I believe the God of heaven will do what is right, I think he does save babies who die. But, I deny that kids are born in a situation where they are not under the banner of sin (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+51%3A5" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 51:5</a>). I might not have a comprehensive system of depravity as some Christians, but it seems to me that there are enough questions there that I can&#8217;t really formulate a rite that I must do (beat my kids) to ensure a favorable result (so that they can be saved from hell) when they reach their moment of accountability (their personal tree of knowledge of good and evil). In other words, I don&#8217;t know how someone can base so much on this concept.</p>
<p><strong>Vocation and Authority:</strong> I&#8217;ll said some of this up in the Scripture usage portion, but the Pearl&#8217;s big emphasis on Parental Authority seems to be a real confusion of their vocation. They are called to be parents and that entails everything that comes with parenthood and the raising of persons—they are not called to be dog trainers, nor are they called to be soldier trainers. They have to exhibit God&#8217;s grace and mercy and righteousness in the home and over the children&#8217;s lives as benevolent rulers; not as tyrants who have no consideration for the persons under them save their vision of them. Examine passages like <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Ephesians+6" title="Bible Gateway">Ephesians 6</a>, <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Col+3" title="Bible Gateway">Col 3, 1</a> <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Corinthians+7" title="Bible Gateway">Corinthians 7, 1</a> <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Corinthians+8-10" title="Bible Gateway">Corinthians 8-10</a>, <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Romans+13" title="Bible Gateway">Romans 13, 1</a> <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Cor+13" title="Bible Gateway">Cor 13</a>: the love of God is free to act in any given situation but is bound in the betterment of another. Paul sees the connection of authority and the home so tightly that he makes ruling of the home well a requirement for elders who will rule the assembly well. It&#8217;s a tight connection that has real implications on how one functions in both those areas.</p>
<p><strong>The Error of Their Teaching</strong><br />
There are some good things in their teaching. The fact that a child needs to be chastised for wrongdoing; that children should be trained in what is right and wrong; that this is a responsibility given by God towards the parents; that it is a serious charge. Even some of the practical counsel they give is very helpful: not spanking in anger; having a goal with chastisement; tying strings that unify the bond between parents and children; sharing in activities. These are all good things—but they are so covered by the rest of the stuff that the Pearl&#8217;s teach that it isn&#8217;t worth trying to glean these few things.</p>
<p><strong>First:</strong> The Pearls essentially offer a one-size-fits-all model without consideration of the broad range of characteristics and temperate nature of children. Some children respond with a spanking; others won&#8217;t respond after any amounts of spankings and in these cases the Pearl method can be fatal. Some children respond to a time out, others only respond if you take things away. This isn&#8217;t surprising. We&#8217;re human. We all act differently and respond to different criteria of pain and rebuke. This is possibly why God himself doesn&#8217;t chastise his children with all the same types of punishment. The children of Israel rebelled in <a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Numbers+11" title="Bible Gateway">Numbers 11</a> and they were punished with fire and with food—something they didn&#8217;t&#8217; want and something they wanted. That sort of thing happens throughout Scripture.</p>
<p><strong>Second:</strong> The Pearls confuse &#8220;The Rod&#8221; for a literal device/tool to be used for spanking when Scripture uses the picture of the rod to speak of punishment but not of only physical punishment. The Proverb states (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+26%3A3" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 26:3</a>) that a whip for the donkey and the rod for the fool but is it suggesting that people should go around beating up atheists (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+53%3A1" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 53:1</a>)? Indeed, Paul tells the Corinthians that he would rather they respond to his letter than him coming with the rod (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Corinthians+4%3A21" title="Bible Gateway">1 Corinthians 4:21</a>). He pits the rod in that portion against love and gentleness (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Corinthians+4%3A21" title="Bible Gateway">1 Corinthians 4:21</a>) meaning that he&#8217;s not coming to Corinth to physically beat them but to lay personal hefty words against the arrogant.</p>
<p><strong>Third:</strong> By putting this onus on Parents as failing to do God&#8217;s mandated task, they have robbed parents of the joy of parenting and of the true God given vocation: being an example. Parents cease to be an example of the loving and merciful God but become the taskmaster of Law. The Pearl&#8217;s seem to know this because they then tell parents to make sure they don&#8217;t use their hands when spanking and only a tool. This way the Law is placed on the device and not the parent. I&#8217;m sorry: kids don&#8217;t know the difference.</p>
<p><strong>Forth:</strong> The Pearls essentially make children an extension of what it is to be a grown up. Follow me for a second. Society says when you reach such and such a stage in a relationship you get married. Then they say before you reach such and such and age and this or that income you then have children. Our society then says that those children are taken care of by someone as long as they&#8217;re not a bother to the Parent. The Parent is a Parent now but that doesn&#8217;t mean they have to suffer with all the stuff that comes with raising a human being. The Pearl&#8217;s do the same thing. You&#8217;ve reached a certain stage that God decides to entrust you with children. Now that you have them you have to keep them in check and break their wills so that they ultimately aren&#8217;t an embarrassment in public or a nuisance in private. Oh they surely won&#8217;t say this—but they make repeated statements taunting the parents who have unruly children in public.</p>
<p><strong>Fifth:</strong> The Pearl&#8217;s present material not only boastfully, but as if it was obvious, a catastrophic combination to new (and old) parents. This is strange since they seem to have no degrees, no credentials beyond that of being parents and no fame beyond having self-published books. And yet, they sit in a position of judgment against fellow believers with such confidence that these believers capitulate to their will. I said earlier that the capitulation is understandable. Parents are deathly afraid of doing something wrong. The Pearl&#8217;s speak to this fear and say &#8220;You are doing something wrong; this is how to do it right.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Sixth:</strong> The teaching is a patently dangerous. The method that the Pearl&#8217;s prescribe is not only excessive, it is done without emotion, without a conscience, and sheer cerebral resolve. This allows for people to be abusive because they consider themselves not being abusive because they&#8217;re not doing it in anger. This is not only wrong, it&#8217;s evil. The parent calmly and consistently continues to strike the child, who doesn&#8217;t seem to capitulate, until the child&#8217;s will breaks: that&#8217;s the rule. And then the news reports parents who have beaten their child nearly to death and everyone is surprised because they&#8217;re so calm, nice and respectful. The Pearl&#8217;s weapon is fully loaded and pointed at the children of those parents.</p>
<p><strong>Seventh:</strong> The teaching is ultimately raising sub-humans. The Pearls rightfully acknowledge that humans have the inborn desire to run without authority but then they take that to mean that it must be purged out of the child&#8217;s system so that they can submit to authority immediately and without question. That&#8217;s absurd. Paul would have us submit to authorities but knowing why those authorities have been established (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rom+12" title="Bible Gateway">Rom 12</a>). Peter and John knew which authorities were established but, when need be, they obeyed God over men (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Acts+5" title="Bible Gateway">Acts 5</a>). Peter says that the submitting to authority is for proving a point to those authorities—not merely because they&#8217;re in power. (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Peter+2" title="Bible Gateway">1 Peter 2</a>)</p>
<p><strong>Closing Thoughts: The Non-Simplicity of Solutions</strong><br />
In conclusion, the Pearl&#8217;s have not only fallen into the trap that so many Parent Preachers have fallen into before them by making a law of their own practice that others must follow; they have endorsed a system that is categorically confused, lacking the mercy and grace of God, endorses abuse as long as it is done without anger, and ultimately gives a poor reflection of the nature of God.</p>
<p>The Pearl&#8217;s theology is confused, naïve, lacking in mercy, and results in a strange and poisonous mixture. They have some good things in their books and writings but those things are so obscured by filth and error that they are rendered not-good, but evil. One wouldn&#8217;t drink a glass of water if it had cyanide and poo mixed in, why drink in writings that might have some nuggets of truth but are mostly crap and poison?</p>
<p>Honestly, reading and writing all of this was a strain on my emotion since I wanted to remain objective but at this point, at my concluding thoughts, I&#8217;d like to say—quite frankly—that what the Pearl&#8217;s have done is evil and their repeated proud proclamations that they are correct (even in the face of reported abusers who have ably, rationally, carried out the Pearl doctrine) reflects a heart and mind darkened with error. That&#8217;s harsh. Purposefully so. I think their pride is getting in the way of questions they should be asking themselves.</p>
<p>For instance, if they started with Christological questions, maybe they would fix some of their stances. For instance, if they were asked if Christ needed these types of training sessions up front before he reached a certain age: if they answer &#8220;no&#8221; then why not? If they answer &#8220;yes&#8221; then the question about the uniqueness of Christ has to come up. They might think it&#8217;s strange to ask a Christological question, but the reason I would is to expose what they think is actually going on with God-given-desires.</p>
<p>They also need to ask some serious questions about the image of God and what it entails in a human person. How (and why) does Paul think that the condemnation on sinners is both obvious and personal—not something obscured that ultimately depends on their parents&#8217; proper teaching?</p>
<p>I think that a lot of parents are so afraid of having problem kids that they invest in just about anything—and honestly, abuse  mostly works. Kids with certain types of personalities might just burrow deeper into their core; other children might just find a devious way to express themselves (not acting up around mom and dad); and yet other children might just die at the hands of their parents. Surely, this isn&#8217;t the only way that children will react but people who abuse their children will usually get results: kids who listen to their every whim.</p>
<p><em>May I take a moment and speak seriously to my Christian brothers and sisters? </em></p>
<p>Use discernment. If you&#8217;re reading this stuff and some of it makes you cringe, then there&#8217;s something wrong. If you agree with this stuff, why do you agree? I challenged some things in this very post (ie: the reading of wisdom literature, theological presuppositions, the role of the parent)…if those challenges are valid, why do you embrace these things?</p>
<p>Think about your vocation. Are you rearing people to be afraid of Law? Are you training them to not bother in public? Are you training persons in the way they should go—not just because it&#8217;s your way? Really think about that. You&#8217;re not raising someone to be Paul, or Peter, or you; you&#8217;re raising someone to be the type of person that can be a Paul, or a Peter or a you. The Pearl method pigeonholes persons into a specific slot—but Scripture&#8217;s lessons are broad in their pointing to the Lord.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve cited quite a bit of the Pearl book already. If you wish to do further research here&#8217;s a listing of articles and Biblical passages —this is not exhaustive, so don&#8217;t take it as such. There&#8217;s no easy passage that tells you how to be a parent. There&#8217;s a passage that tells us to be imitators of Christ and that speaks volumes over what the Pearls are suggesting.</p>
<p><strong>Limited list of Biblical Passages for further examination:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Dt. 21:18—22 Regulation of chastisement handed over to Elders for stoning</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Jb+5%3A17" title="Bible Gateway">Jb 5:17</a> Happy is the man who God reproves</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Jb+36%3A10" title="Bible Gateway">Jb 36:10</a> He opens their ear to instruction and commands that they return from evil</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psalm+89%3A32" title="Bible Gateway">Psalm 89:32</a> I will punish their sin with the rod</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Psa.+94%3A12" title="Bible Gateway">Psa. 94:12</a>  Blessed be the man the Lord chastens</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+1" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 1</a> with the purpose of the Psalms</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+5%3A12-23" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 5:12-23</a>; 6:23, 24 Discipline needed for keeping from sexual sin</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+6%3A23" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 6:23</a> Discipline for the way of life</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+14%3A7" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 14:7</a> Leave the presence of a fool or you will not discern knowledge</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+17%3A10" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 17:10</a> A rebuke impresses a man of discernment more than 1000 lashes</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+19%3A10" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 19:10</a> It is not fitting for a fool to live in luxury; nor a slave to rule over princes</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+27%3A22" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 27:22</a> Though you grind a fool in a mortar, grinding him like grain with a pestle, you will not remove his folly from him</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+29%3A19" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 29:19</a> A servant cannot be corrected by mere words;  though he understands, he will not respond.</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+30%3A32" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 30:32</a> &#8220;If you have played the fool and exalted yourself, or if you have planned evil, clap your hand over your mouth!</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+3%3A11" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 3:11</a> Do not despise the discipline of the Lord</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+12%3A1" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 12:1</a>  whoever loves discipline loves knowledge</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+22%3A6" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 22:6</a>: Train a child in the way he should go and he will not depart from it.</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+20%3A11" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 20:11</a> A child is known by his actions</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+22%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 22:15</a> Folly is in the heart of the child but the rod will drive it from him.</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+10%3A13" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 10:13</a> Wisdom on the lips of the discerning; the rod on the back of those who lack judgment</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+14%3A3" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 14:3</a> A fool&#8217;s talk brings the rod to his back</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+13%3A24" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 13:24</a> He who spares the rod spoils the child</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+22%3A8" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 22:8</a> He who sows wickedness reaps trouble, and the rod of his fury will be destroyed</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+23%3A13" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 23:13</a> Do not withhold discipline; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die.</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+23%3A14" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 23:14</a> Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death.</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+26%3A3" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 26:3</a> A whip for the horse, a halter for a donkey, and a rod for the back of fools!</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+29%3A15" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 29:15</a> The rod of correction imparts wisdom; but a child left to himself disgraces his mother.</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+29%3A17" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 29:17</a> Correct your son and he will comfort your soul</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+17%3A26" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 17:26</a> It is not good to punish an innocent man or to flog officials for their integrity</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+26%3A4" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 26:4</a> Do not answer a fool according to his folly</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Proverbs+26%3A5" title="Bible Gateway">Proverbs 26:5</a> Answer a fool according to his folly</li>
<li>Mt 5:17 &#8211; 48 Self Discipline as stated by Christ</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rom+8%3A1" title="Bible Gateway">Rom 8:1</a> &#8211; 8 Law of Spirit in Life in Christ Jesus</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rom+12%3A2" title="Bible Gateway">Rom 12:2</a> via the renewing of the mind</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Romans+12" title="Bible Gateway">Romans 12</a> Rulers established to chastise</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Romans+13" title="Bible Gateway">Romans 13</a> Love to be our ruling example</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Romans+14-15" title="Bible Gateway">Romans 14-15</a>: the Law of Liberty</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Heb+12%3A4-9" title="Bible Gateway">Heb 12:4-9</a> Disciplining of God&#8217;s Sons just as our earthly Fathers</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Corinthians+4%3A21" title="Bible Gateway">1 Corinthians 4:21</a> Shall I come with the rod or the spirit of gentleness</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Corinthians+8-10" title="Bible Gateway">1 Corinthians 8-10</a>: Liberty subjected for Love&#8217;s sake</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=2+Corinthians+10%3A5-7" title="Bible Gateway">2 Corinthians 10:5-7</a> demolishing arguments and punishing disobedience until your obedience is complete.</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=2+Timothy+3%3A16" title="Bible Gateway">2 Timothy 3:16</a> Scripture for correction and reproof</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Eph+6%3A1-6" title="Bible Gateway">Eph 6:1-6</a></li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Col+3%3A21-4" title="Bible Gateway">Col 3:21-4</a>:2</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=1+Peter+2%3A13-15" title="Bible Gateway">1 Peter 2:13-15</a> Governors established to punish those who do wrong.</li>
<li><a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Rev+3%3A19" title="Bible Gateway">Rev 3:19</a> Those whom I love I rebuke</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Things To Read:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://lauriemo.blogspot.com/2010/02/in-which-i-speak-of-unspeakable.html" target="_blank">Blog Post</a></li>
<li><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/26/opinion/la-oe-oneill26-2010feb26" target="_blank">News story</a></li>
<li><a href="http://online.worldmag.com/2010/02/25/to-brainwash-a-parent/" target="_blank">An Examination</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/26/crimesider/entry6247502.shtml" target="_blank">CBS Examines</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.newsreview.com/chico/content?oid=1373000" target="_blank">Chicago News</a></li>
<li>TulipGirl has an <a href="http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/2010/03/speaking-out-updated/" target="_blank">EXTENSIVE list over here.</a></li>
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		<title>John Frame on Homeschooling</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was listening to John Frame a while ago and he made a case for homeschooling that I&#8217;ve heard some variations of but not with the undergirding that makes Frame&#8217;s view understandable (maybe even plausible). Frame thinks that the only possible reasons to send children to public schools are abject poverty and total inability to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to John Frame a while ago and he made a case for homeschooling that I&#8217;ve heard some variations of but not with the undergirding that makes Frame&#8217;s view understandable (maybe even plausible).</p>
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 Frame thinks that the only possible reasons to send children to public schools are abject poverty and total inability to home-school.  Why? Well, this sounds pretty standard fare, the values the schools dictate are secular humanist, relativist, New age and so forth. In such an environment, also in light of after school activities, parents will have to spend a lot of time unteaching certain values and epistemological facts and it is doubtful if they can properly provide the Word saturated environment demanded by God.</p>
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 Young children he thinks should definitely be in a home-school environment (at best) or have some of the responsibility delegated out to a Christian school (with the caveat that you will do some serious teaching and unteaching at home if need be).</p>
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     They should be taught in such a way that they will be able to go to secular schools without being damaged, but rather salt and light in that situation. Indeed, more advanced levels of education fiels will require first-hand interaction with non-Christian approaches.</p>
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     Students differ as to when they are ready for secular study, or for employment in &#8220;the world.&#8221; Some will be able to handle it in high school, others in college, still others not until graduate school. But one should not go to a non-Christian institution until he is well enough grounded in Scripture and the Reformed world-and-life view to discern what is true and false in non-Christian teaching. And he should not go to such  a school until his Christian characters is well formed, until he is able to say &#8220;no&#8221; to the temptations of non-Christian society.</p>
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<p>
 The position sounds fairly standard until you see the undergirding thought. </p>
<p>
 John Frame is a: a Calvinist; philosophically he&#8217;s Van Tillian; he sees certain ethical values as being tied to the nature of a human, contingent to God, and solidified in covenant to God. For instance, when he looks at philosophy, he sees it as primarily concerned with three branches which, given the reality of God, have real interplay. So metaphysics (the intangible…minds, God, pain, etc) , epistemology (how we know what we know), and values (ethics) wind up changing drastically given the revelation of God. A Christian philosopher dealing in metaphysics automatically has some metaphysical facts (the existence of another mind who is God) which also ties into epistemology (God has revealed himself) which also ties into values (&#8220;Thus says the Lord&#8221;).</p>
<p>
 When  God explicitly tells Israel that they are to know God (He is One), they are to Love God (with all their being) and they are to obey God (his given commandments) he is not making an optional request, rather he makes a covenantal demand because they are bound to Him. This is why he would then say to impress these things on their children, in their talk, in their homes, in their walk&#8212;everywhere (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Deut+6%3A4-9" title="Bible Gateway">Deut 6:4-9</a>). This is something that would be required as a human created in the image of God (<a class="scripturizer"  href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=NASB&amp;passage=Genesis+1" title="Bible Gateway">Genesis 1, 2</a>) but since mankind is in active rebellion one finds education separated from all of this.</p>
<p>
 Frame doesn&#8217;t segregate the reality of God from education. This is primary for him. We (people) know what we know in the world (nature) and in our own situation (internal, conscience, identity) because God really exists and has spoken in word and action&#8212;to separate any part of this is to ignore the basis of education as rooted in God. The Christian knows this already because of the revelation of God and must ethically act on the basis of this information.</p>
<p>
 So whereas some homeschoolers decide to home-school to keep their children away from a certain environment, Frame does the same but because he sees Word-saturation as an ethical, existential and epistemological requirement. </p>
<p>
 Well, what about teachers in the public school environment? Surely there is some sort of redeeming qualities about them being there. He agrees and thinks they should be in there but he says that the way the institution is set up, in light of the governmental obligations, the Christian teacher can&#8217;t saturate that environment in the Word. He jokingly said that if he were given a chance to be a public school teacher he&#8217;d be a skeptic of everything&#8212;all philosophies, all positions, all epistemology&#8212;just so as to destroy the humanistic hope of knowledge or beliefs without God.  That&#8217;s pretty funny but man, it sounds awesome.</p>
<p>
 I think I&#8217;d like to see a treatment of his presuppositionalism explicitly tied to his view on education (<a href="http://www.biblearchive.com/filesftp/Frame_christian_schools.pdf" target="_blank">pdf warning</a>). I tied the <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2009/human/what-is-the-point-of-schooling/" target="_blank">purpose of education to personhood</a>, and ultimately the imago dei, but in the end I balked from tying an ethical dimension to it via the reality of God. I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;m doing right by that or not, but it bears consideration</p>

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		<title>My Summarizing Thoughts on Illegal Immigration</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve arrived at the point of this series where I&#8217;m expected (of myself, of course) to systematize all I&#8217;ve covered and come up with immigration reform in America. I&#8217;ve looked at the subject about every which way: I&#8217;ve examined the problems; I&#8217;ve worked through a thought model based on the Old Testament; I&#8217;ve looked at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve arrived at the point of <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2009/series/illegal-immigration-series/" target="_blank">this series</a> where I&#8217;m expected (of myself, of course) to systematize all I&#8217;ve covered and come up with immigration reform in America. I&#8217;ve looked at the subject about every which way: I&#8217;ve examined the problems; I&#8217;ve worked through a thought model based on the Old Testament; I&#8217;ve looked at reasons for civil disobedience; the reality of Christians under rulers and the further reality of Christians as rulers; I&#8217;ve explained the importance of conscience; and finally I looked at the reality of living in a world where sin still reigns—so a solution is expected, right? In this post I&#8217;m going to first explain what I think would be an ideal situation with immigration reform, then I&#8217;ll follow with something more realistic on the national level, and then I&#8217;ll end with what I think Christians should be <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2009/sin/christian-ideals-and-the-reality-of-sin/">realistically doing</a> now.</p>
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<p>Ideally (within the realm of my intended purpose of these posts; we can always conceive of something even better) there shouldn&#8217;t be a problem of illegal immigration at all. It would be great if people from other countries could come to America to better their own situation and America would comply in fulfilling that dream. As part of this openness, Americans would have a process by which aliens can come in, be given work with a proper salary that fulfilled areas that people aren&#8217;t currently jumping on board with (and still addresses the skill set of the Aliens) while offering them government sponsored health benefits which they partially pay for with some sort of tax. As part of their involvement in the country, they would also be steeped in an integration program where they are taught the lingua franca, some basics about economics (banking, smart shopping, coupons, etc), supplied some sort of housing with cultural support, with the end goal being that they become citizens. As citizens they would be afforded a basic public education (that would include college, if they want to go there) and hopefully become a productive part of American society. All of that would be ideal.</p>
<p>Realistically all of that wouldn&#8217;t be perfectly possible in a fallen world. Cultural support neighborhoods might look more like the ethnic barrios we have now. Realistically, I think that America should have a public health plan that offsets the costs of emergency room visits by illegal aliens via offering a public health plan for all aliens and people who can&#8217;t afford health insurance. In this way, the undocumented aliens would still hit the hospitals but the costs have been curbed by addressing all the other people who also hit the hospitals instead of doctors or clinics. I think there should be some sort of background check process for undocumented aliens to see if these folk are criminals before trying to integrate them in society. I think that companies should have a citizen integration program that allows them to hire undocumented workers to perform what they need doing at a wage-to-skill equivalent pay grade but with a program that similarly looks at making these folk Americans.</p>
<p>Christians though should think realistically about all this since I don&#8217;t think that the problem of illegal immigration will be properly addressed at the governmental level without hurting loads of people. I think that a lot of this sort of thinking should come from American Christians.</p>
<p>So, I think that it is up to the Christian&#8217;s conscience if he will hire the illegal alien or not, but if he does hire one (against the state&#8217;s laws), he better be paying the person how he would pay an American, be concerned for the alien&#8217;s health, and be concerned about getting the alien to become documented. The American Christian should be seeking to integrate this person while respecting their culture, constantly reflecting the Gospel imperative with the balm of loving one&#8217;s neighbor—even these distant neighbors. A Christian in a different situation, who sees that there&#8217;s someone hiring undocumented workers and mistreating them, should be similarly concerned for them and (I say this carefully) report the person who is mistreating the aliens. I don&#8217;t think this reporting should be done blindly though. I think that the Christian should first speak to the aliens (and their managers), get to know them, speak to them about the importance of getting documented and of getting away from the mistreatment. It may be that the situation will be dealt with by the employer himself. It might not.</p>
<p>The point is that American Christians should be concerned about this in the national level, be willing to act on their conviction, and concerned enough to seek to properly reflect how the nation looks like under the Lordship of Christ. There&#8217;s a fair amount of nationalism in my statement but it is a nationalism that is Christ centered—that seeks the betterment of others and the best representation of itself in the now only insofar as it hinges its existence on the resurrected Christ. Of course the nation will not achieve this on its own because it is not Christian, so each Christian will have to deal with each illegal immigration situation personally and in the place that they have been found.</p>
<p>This post has concessions, concerns and qualifications; but it&#8217;s all fraught with the problems of looking through a dirty window. We&#8217;re mired in <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2009/sin/christian-ideals-and-the-reality-of-sin/" target="_blank">sin</a> so any solution won&#8217;t be pat and proper.</p>
<p>In other words, this is a tough spot. At this side of eternity Christians will have to choose between choices in the grey that are very much sullied with of sin. Sometimes Christians will have to choose between supporting a war and allowing attacks on citizens; sometimes Christians will have to choose between denying an alien citizenship and denying the government the right to send the alien home.</p>
<p>As for me, I started this whole thing thinking I wouldn&#8217;t have any suggestions of what we should be doing and at the other side of it; I have suggestions and the kernel of a conviction forming. I think the importance of the image of God should inform a lot of our thinking on this issue; and yet I also think that the importance <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2009/human/embracing-human-conscience/">of individual conscienc</a>e and <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2009/christ/clothing-and-the-gospel/">vocation</a> is something not to be shrugged aside with blanket statements (be it about the image of God or about the mandate to obey governments or whatever).</p>
<p>I encourage you to look over the rest of the series, examine the passages that I cite and, God willing, offer your own thoughts. Perhaps, the Lord will use you to work on me. Or vice versa. Either way, think through it.</p>
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<strong>Update 10/07/2009:</strong>
<p>I wound up summarizing <a href="http://biblearchive.com/blog/2009/human/my-summarizing-thoughts-on-illegal-immigration/" target="_blank">my series on illegal immigration</a> with some of the solutions consisting of public policy implemented at the governmental level and then some vocational wisdom that is likely the only real world activity we can practically implement. The problem with some of solutions I gave is in what I didn&#8217;t say resulting in making some of the solutions the moral superior ideal even though I noticed they technically aren&#8217;t. </p>
<p>
 The problem point is found in the second paragraph: I listed government sponsored health benefits, public education, government programs to train with banking, and public housing with cultural support. Why is this situation listed as ideal? What makes it morally superior?</p>
<p>
 When I wrote later on about American Christians reflecting a proper nationalism that consists of a version of society that reflects the Gospel within that society, it was apparent that what I saw as ideal was that society was participating in the activity that made it in its entirety be the best version of itself. But the fallacy is found in concluding that this means that this is implemented at the governmental level.</p>
<p>
 In other words: a public solution isn&#8217;t morally superior to a private one at all. </p>
<p>
 For example, if the government said that there was to be a public health plan for illegal aliens, public schooling funded by tax dollars, and public training for education and yet every single person under the purview of this mythical government hated illegal aliens and only did this to not have to deal with their smell or worse, to prepare them all for a private execution, would their action on the public level be morally justified? Yeah, I know that&#8217;s ridiculous but the point is that if something isn&#8217;t going on at the private level that doesn&#8217;t automatically make the public level good.</p>
<p>
 This is most obviously seen when you invert it. If a private institution is supporting all its members for their good that doesn&#8217;t make the public government the private institution belongs to morally good in the policies that it implements. </p>
<p>
 And yes, I know that I started the summarizing post with the point that we can always conceive of something better&#8212;but this doesn&#8217;t have to do with that. This has to do with the fallacy of assuming that only the governmental programs way would be the ideal when I could have easily envisioned a way that Americans would do everything I said in the post at the private level and still be morally good while reflecting the best version of America available. </p>
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 I&#8217;m going to tack this on to the end of that summarizing post to clear up any confusion there.</p>

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