{"id":213,"date":"2005-05-20T07:30:00","date_gmt":"2005-05-20T11:30:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2005-07-20T15:06:45","modified_gmt":"2005-07-20T19:06:45","slug":"one-baptism-versus-the-many","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/one-baptism-versus-the-many\/","title":{"rendered":"One Baptism Versus the Many?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last time we discussed baptism we offered up brother Rory&rsquo;s<br \/>\ncontention that salvation is impossible without the rite of baptism. One of the<br \/>\ntexts he used in support of this baptism being salvific was {{Ephesians 4:4-5}}<br \/>\nillustrating this point of One baptism being for the forgiveness of sins. My<br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/382\/51\/\">first post<\/a> started to question the usage {{Ephesians 4[NASB]}} as this defense and in<br \/>\nthis post I will explore the different baptisms mentioned in Scripture.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Why look at different baptisms?<\/strong><br \/>\nWell, I think it&rsquo;s important<br \/>\nto rightly divide what the Scriptures are saying. Not in the sense that we<br \/>\ndecide where the division is by putting numbers down, but God has decided to<br \/>\nhave each of these forty something authors write with a purpose and a burden on<br \/>\ntheir heart. We study looking at the intent of the writer and we start to<br \/>\ngarner and understanding of where God draws lines in Scripture. Be that as it<br \/>\nmay, baptism is covered broadly throughout the New Testament and if a person<br \/>\ntruly wants a course on the practice, they can study the book of Acts.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Baptism was not brought by Christians.<\/strong><br \/>\nYep, that&rsquo;s right,<br \/>\nChrist told His disciples to go and baptize but His followers were not the<br \/>\noriginators of the concept of baptism. In fact the writer to the Hebrews (chapter 6) would<br \/>\nwarn his readers, professing Jews no doubt, were told to move onwards,<br \/>\nprogressing from what they knew: the teachings of the Messiah, the teachings of<br \/>\nrepentance from dead works and of faith towards God, of instruction about<br \/>\nwashings (the word is the one for baptisms) and of the laying on of hands, the<br \/>\nresurrection of the dead and the eternal judgment. These are all things that<br \/>\nweren&rsquo;t brought newly by Christians but were long established and taught in Judaism.<br \/>\nThe point in Hebrews is that the Christ had come&hellip;He was no longer a teaching but<br \/>\nwas physically manifested&#8230;progress from the shadows and move on to the reality.\n <\/p>\n<p><strong>Baptism of John<\/strong><br \/>\nJohn was baptizing long before Christ&rsquo;s disciples<br \/>\nwere and this is where I would actually like to start looking at these<br \/>\ndifferent baptisms in detail. Matthew 3:5-8 tells us that John was baptizing<br \/>\nfolk with water in Judea in the district where the Jordan passed through. This baptism<br \/>\nis described as being done with several seemingly disparate purposes. Verse 6<br \/>\ntells us that the people did this while confessing their sins. Luke 7:29 would<br \/>\ntell us that the people (in this case including tax collectors) were justifying<br \/>\nGod&mdash;or the NASB would say &ldquo;acknowledging God&rsquo;s justice&rdquo;. One purpose completely<br \/>\nMan focused and the other completely God focused? No, for John explains what<br \/>\nthe people were doing back in Matthew 3:11. He was baptizing with water for<br \/>\nrepentance. There&rsquo;s the connection then. The confessing of sins wasn&rsquo;t merely<br \/>\nletting loose the conscience but it consisted of saying &ldquo;God you are completely<br \/>\nright about me&hellip;I&rsquo;m a sinner and I am sorry.&rdquo; A baptism of water for repentance.<\/p>\n<p>Well that&rsquo;s the gospel right? Repent and be baptized? Well<br \/>\nnot really because in the book of Acts 19:3,4 we have a case of some folk who<br \/>\nhave partaken of the baptism of John, this baptism specifically of repentance<br \/>\nwhich justified God&mdash;but who had as of yet not received the Holy Spirit. Why?<br \/>\nWe&rsquo;ll have to hit on that at a later date, but if anything this should<br \/>\nestablish in our thinking that Repenting and Baptism doesn&rsquo;t make a person a Temple of the Living God.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Baptism With Fire<\/strong><br \/>\nInteresting that in Matthew 3:11 we hear mention of two<br \/>\nother baptisms. He mentions one who is coming after him who would baptize with<br \/>\nthe Spirit and with fire. We&rsquo;ll deal with the later first.<\/p>\n<p>What is this baptism with fire? I submit to you that it is<br \/>\nthe very fiery indignation of God by which He would judge the world. Who was<br \/>\ncondemnation given over to? Why the very Son was given that power and He would<br \/>\nreturn, as the rightful ruler of this world and would come to trample the<br \/>\nwinepress. A point that Peter makes sure to establish in Acts 2 when he<br \/>\npreaches on the prophecy of Joel and the Last Days. Thankfully, John kept the<br \/>\norder of the baptisms and God has decided to record that for our comfort (and<br \/>\nfor the sake of the listeners during Pentecost). Baptism of the Spirit is to<br \/>\ncome first. You can also check out Romans 8 and the book of Revelations to see Christ as judge and executor.\n<\/p>\n<p><strong>Baptism With the Spirit<\/strong><br \/>\nHere I may have some disagreement with (countless) others<br \/>\nover the actual baptism. The theologian (who knows much more than me) will say<br \/>\nthat the baptism is done by the Holy Spirit by placing believers in Christ and<br \/>\nso forth. I say that Christ does the baptizing with the agent of the Holy<br \/>\nSpirit. In other words John would baptize folks by dipping them in water,<br \/>\nChrist would baptize folks by dipping them in the Holy Spirit which was poured<br \/>\nout on Pentecost, specifically. I base my reasoning for this on those<br \/>\ncomparative statements by John and Christ (Matt 3:11, Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16, John<br \/>\n1:33, Acts 1:5). A nitpicky distinction, I guess.\n<\/p>\n<p>Be that as it may it still occurred during Pentecost (Acts<br \/>\n2) as a prequel to the baptism by fire that would come at a later date. (Read<br \/>\nthe book of Joel for more info.) What&rsquo;s interesting about this baptism with the<br \/>\nSpirit is that it seems to have little to do with water. For instance, in Acts<br \/>\n2 the believers who were there were surely all baptized in water&mdash;but that was<br \/>\nsome time ago. When they were baptized earlier it wasn&rsquo;t with the outpouring of<br \/>\nthe Spirit as on this day. In fact, in Acts 10 (v 44 &ndash; 48 specifically) we&rsquo;ll<br \/>\nsee Peter preaching to some Gentiles and him and his circumcised crew witness the<br \/>\nSpirit being poured out on them as well, hearing them exalt God in tongues.<br \/>\nWhen he realized what had just happened he quickly asked for some water to<br \/>\nbaptize these people. We&rsquo;ll see why he was so eager to do this inthe next post, but for now<br \/>\nit&rsquo;s safe to say that the water had nothing to do with the being put into the<br \/>\nOne Body and the One Spirit mentioned in Ephesians 4.<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" class=\"moduletable\">\n<tr>\n<td><span class=\"sectiontableheader\">The Full Series<\/span>\n <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><span class=\"smalldark\"><a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/382\/51\/\">1. Baptism Necessary for Salvation?<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/388\/51\/\">2. One Baptism Versus the Many?<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/394\/51\/\">3. Baptism and Big Problems<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/395\/51\/\">4. Baptismal Regeneration (Acts 2:28)<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/403\/51\/\">5. Deluge of Baptism Questions (Acts 1-22)<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/408\/51\/\">6. Baptism and Romans (Rom 6:1-11)<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/422\/51\/\">7. Noah and Baptism (2 Peter 3:20,21)<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"content\/view\/425\/51\/\" target=\"_self\">8. Paul On Baptism (1 Cor 1:14-18)<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"content\/view\/434\/65\/\" target=\"_self\"><br \/>\n9. The Error of Infant Baptism<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"content\/view\/436\/65\/\" target=\"_self\"><br \/>\n10. Remember Your Baptism (Rom 6:1-11)<\/a><br \/>\nRelated<br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/418\/51\/\"><br \/>\nRuss On Baptism<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/390\/58\/\">Baptism of Linkage<\/a><\/span>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>This has already gone longer than expected but God willing<br \/>\nyou&rsquo;re already noticing what role water is playing (and not playing) in the<br \/>\nprevious examples. In the next post we&rsquo;ll still be looking at some more Biblical<br \/>\nbaptisms and likely the questions that some of us may be asking might start to get bigger question marks. :)<\/p>\n<p><em>-r-<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last time we discussed baptism we offered up brother Rory&rsquo;s contention that salvation is impossible without the rite of baptism. 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