{"id":220,"date":"2005-06-02T07:30:00","date_gmt":"2005-06-02T11:30:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2005-07-20T15:11:48","modified_gmt":"2005-07-20T19:11:48","slug":"deluge-of-baptism-questions-tmpacts-1-22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/deluge-of-baptism-questions-tmpacts-1-22\/","title":{"rendered":"Deluge of Baptism Questions -tmp(Acts 1-22)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We left off in our study on baptism performing an<br \/>\nexamination on one of the key proof-texts by supporters of baptismal salvation.<br \/>\nIn our brief overview of that section we experimented with big fancy words: <a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/395\/\">differential diagnosis<\/a>. Realizing that all it meant was having all the<br \/>\ndetails and drawing different conclusions based on those details we now move<br \/>\nforward in our study spending a short time questioning baptisms in the book of<br \/>\nActs.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>{{Acts 8:12}}<br \/>\nPhilip proclaims Christ in Samaria. The crowds pay attention to Philip&rsquo;s<br \/>\npreaching and to the (miraculous) signs which he performs. The people<br \/>\nproclaimed that &ldquo;This man is what is called the Great Power of God.&rdquo; Probably<br \/>\nthe first big revival since Jesus visited in {{John 4}} occurs as the people<br \/>\n(1) believed the good news about the Kingdom<br \/>\n of God and the name of<br \/>\nJesus Christ (2) and were baptized. Even a certain sorcerer by the name of<br \/>\nSimon believed and was baptized. Word reached Jerusalem about their reception of the Word<br \/>\nof God and Peter and John came up to pray for them that they might receive the<br \/>\nHoly Spirit for He had not fallen upon them. The text specifically stating that<br \/>\n&ldquo;they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus&rdquo; ({{Acts 8:16}}).<br \/>\nThey began to receive the Holy Spirit via the laying on of the apostle&rsquo;s hands.<br \/>\nSimon, wanting the Holy Spirit tried to pay cash and he was called on as being<br \/>\nin the bondage of iniquity. Was he saved? Don&rsquo;t know&hellip;Luke doesn&rsquo;t give us more<br \/>\ndetails but the words are pretty condemning. Where was regeneration in this<br \/>\nscenario? Was it at the baptismal waters? Was it on the laying on of hands?<br \/>\nWere they already regenerated and now receiving the Holy Spirit in power? When<br \/>\nwere the people saved?<\/p>\n<p>{{Acts 9:18}} and {{Acts 22:16}}<br \/>\nYoung Saul, an up and coming Pharisee is found zealously<br \/>\npersecuting the Christians. At one point even holding the coats of murderers.<br \/>\nWith some highly charged letters in hand and the power to start arresting the<br \/>\nChristians within his grasp, he is met by the resurrected Lord. After revealing<br \/>\nto Saul that he was actually persecuting God, Jesus Christ sends him to<br \/>\ncontinue to Damascus<br \/>\nto meet a certain Ananias. Instead of going to the synagogue he goes to Ananias<br \/>\nwho tells him of God&rsquo;s plan for his life as well as a message of the filling of<br \/>\nthe Holy Spirit plus the return of sight({{Acts 9:17}}). The message also<br \/>\nconsisted of a command which was to &ldquo;Get up and be baptized, and wash away your<br \/>\nsins, calling on His name.&rdquo; ({{Acts 22:16}}) After regaining his sight he got<br \/>\nup and was baptized. When was the Holy Spirit received? When he regained sight<br \/>\nor after his baptism by water? What did Ananias mean by &ldquo;wash away your sins&rdquo;<br \/>\nin conjunction with &ldquo;be baptized&rdquo; or are they two separate thoughts? And could<br \/>\nPaul actually wash away the sin of persecuting the risen Lord? Was that even<br \/>\nhis call?<\/p>\n<p>{{Acts 10:47}}<br \/>\nI spoke about this peripherally in my other articles.<br \/>\nBasically, after a series of miraculous visions, Peter winds up preaching the<br \/>\ngospel starting first with &ldquo;the man who fears [God] and does what is right is<br \/>\nwelcome to Him&rdquo;({{Acts 10:34}}) and climaxing with Jesus of whom the prophets<br \/>\ntestified &ldquo;that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives<br \/>\nforgiveness of sins ({{Acts 10:43}}). The Holy Spirit decides to prove the<br \/>\npoint as Peter is still speaking and falls upon those who are listening to the<br \/>\nmessage. All the circumcised believers who are with Peter are amazed at what is<br \/>\ngoing on. Peter, realizing how these Gentiles were speaking in tongues and<br \/>\nexalting God and remembering the word of the Lord (who said &ldquo;John baptized with<br \/>\nwater, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit&rdquo; {{Acts 11:16}}) requests<br \/>\nsome water to baptize them in the name of Jesus Christ. He readily acknowledges<br \/>\nthat He could not stand in the way of God but specifies that this Spirit was<br \/>\ngiven to them after believing in Jesus Christ ({{Acts 11:17}}). When did<br \/>\nregeneration happen? After they were baptized? After they believed? Or is this<br \/>\ndifferent from regeneration? Why did Peter&rsquo;s message to these Gentiles only<br \/>\nconsist of &ldquo;Believe in Him&rdquo; with the result of receiving the forgiveness of<br \/>\nsins? Why did the message not consist of the same words as in {{Acts 2}} or {{Acts<br \/>\n22}}: Repent, Believe and be Baptized?<\/p>\n<p>{{Acts 16:15}}<br \/>\nA woman named Lydia, very well off and several<br \/>\nhundred miles from her home town is marked out as being a worshipper of God. On<br \/>\na certain Sabbath, where the women gathered to pray by the riverside, Paul and<br \/>\ncompany preached the gospel. The Lord opened her heart to respond says the<br \/>\ntext. Subsequently she and her household were baptized. No mention of the Holy<br \/>\nSpirit but we do see the Lord opening her heart to respond although she was<br \/>\nalready a &ldquo;worshipper of God&rdquo;. What does this mean? What did the baptism mean?<br \/>\nIt says her household&hellip;does this mean her children or babies? Would a business<br \/>\nwoman travel several hundred miles with babies in tow? <\/p>\n<p>{{Acts 18:18}}<br \/>\nStaying at the house of a certain Titius Justus, a<br \/>\nworshipper of God who lived next door to the temple, Paul had the opportunity<br \/>\nto preach in and around the synagogue area. The leader of that synagogue, Crispus,<br \/>\nbelieved in the Lord with his entire household.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed many of the Corinthians &ldquo;when they heard were<br \/>\nbelieving and being baptized&rdquo;. Paul settled there for a year and six months,<br \/>\nteaching to word of God among them. When did these people get baptized? The<br \/>\ntext says that it was as &ldquo;they heard and were believing&rdquo;&#8230;but according to<br \/>\nPeter&rsquo;s words earlier they would have received forgiveness of sins without the<br \/>\nwater. And why is there no mention of repentance? Indeed, the earlier part of<br \/>\nthe chapter shows us very unrepentant people {{Acts 18:5-6}}. <\/p>\n<p>{{Acts 19:2-5}}<br \/>\nWhen Paul arrives at Ephesus<br \/>\nhe found some disciples who had not received the Holy Spirit. Paul asks them<br \/>\ninto what where they baptized to which they responded the baptism of John. Paul<br \/>\npoints out to them that John&rsquo;s baptism was of repentance but John&rsquo;s message was<br \/>\nto believe in Him who was coming after Him&hellip;Jesus. Hearing this they were<br \/>\nbaptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and when Paul laid hands on them the<br \/>\nHoly Spirit came on them and they began to speak in tongues and prophesy.<br \/>\nInitially we would say that the right baptism was necessary for their receiving<br \/>\nof the Holy Spirit but we could easily argue that Paul&rsquo;s laying on of hands was<br \/>\nnecessary. Also we would have to come up to Paul&rsquo;s initial question which had<br \/>\nnothing to do with water, namely &ldquo;did you receive the Holy Spirit when you<br \/>\nbelieved?&rdquo; To this they answered that they had not even heard whether there was<br \/>\na Holy Spirit clueing in Paul in the deeper issue at stake. These believers<br \/>\nwere repentant and baptized yet they did not have the Holy Spirit? Why? What<br \/>\nwas missing in their situation? Why was the gospel spoken to them a redirection<br \/>\naway from John and onto the One of which John spoke? <\/p>\n<p>General questions: why don&rsquo;t we see Jesus&rsquo; formula of &ldquo;in<br \/>\nthe name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit&rdquo;? why do we only see<br \/>\nbaptisms &ldquo;in the name of Jesus&rdquo;? How do we reconcile those two things? Why do<br \/>\nthe Jews in Acts 2 receive a message of &ldquo;Repent, Believe and Be Baptized&rdquo; while<br \/>\nwhenever we see Gentiles the message consists of &ldquo;Believe&rdquo;? Why does the Spirit<br \/>\ndecide to enter without water or with water or by &ldquo;laying on of hands&rdquo;? What<br \/>\nmessage is being proclaimed by these scenarios? Some of these questions may not<br \/>\nhave answers&hellip;but the point is to diagnose the text and see how they react to<br \/>\nthose questions.<\/p>\n<p><em>-r-<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" class=\"moduletable\">\n<tr>\n<td><span class=\"sectiontableheader\">The Full Series<\/span>\n <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><span class=\"smalldark\"><a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/382\/51\/\">1. Baptism Necessary for Salvation?<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/388\/51\/\">2. One Baptism Versus the Many?<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/394\/51\/\">3. Baptism and Big Problems<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/395\/51\/\">4. Baptismal Regeneration (Acts 2:28)<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/403\/51\/\">5. Deluge of Baptism Questions (Acts 1-22)<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/408\/51\/\">6. Baptism and Romans (Rom 6:1-11)<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/422\/51\/\">7. Noah and Baptism (2 Peter 3:20,21)<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"content\/view\/425\/51\/\" target=\"_self\">8. Paul On Baptism (1 Cor 1:14-18)<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"content\/view\/434\/65\/\" target=\"_self\"><br \/>\n9. The Error of Infant Baptism<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"content\/view\/436\/65\/\" target=\"_self\"><br \/>\n10. Remember Your Baptism (Rom 6:1-11)<\/a><br \/>\nRelated<br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/418\/51\/\"><br \/>\nRuss On Baptism<\/a><br \/>\n<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/390\/58\/\">Baptism of Linkage<\/a><\/span>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We left off in our study on baptism performing an examination on one of the key proof-texts by supporters of baptismal salvation. In our brief overview of that section we experimented with big fancy words: differential diagnosis. 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