{"id":2775,"date":"2011-10-27T08:30:48","date_gmt":"2011-10-27T13:30:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/?p=2775"},"modified":"2011-10-28T07:27:40","modified_gmt":"2011-10-28T12:27:40","slug":"modern-prophetic-fallibility","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/modern-prophetic-fallibility\/","title":{"rendered":"Modern Prophetic Fallibility"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I am a cessationist insofar as all the gifts of the spirit are <strong>NOT (edit)<\/strong> in full operation today as they were in the early Church, but I am a continuationist in regard to \u201cnew\u201d areas where the Gospel is being preached. I think that Holy Spirit purposefully functions in this capacity where the Gospel message is making inroads. I\u2019m not putting this up here to justify some sort of circular reasoning but rather to qualify what I\u2019m about to say as an argument I think continuationists should use if they\u2019re going to want to push forward the idea that prophecy occurs today. So perhaps this opening should be read more as a warning: I don\u2019t believe what I\u2019m about to say, but I think it could be defended.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The popular argument for prophecy today goes something like this: (1) there is a difference from The Prophets which recorded Scripture and the prophets which didn\u2019t. (2) The modern day gift of prophecy accords with the latter (3) Therefore we should expect revelation (4) This revelation is infallible in that it is from God but it can be misinterpreted (5) None of this is a threat to Scripture which has been codified.\u00a0I am sure Continuationists will quibble about this initial presentation but it&#8217;s not even the main thrust of the post.<\/p>\n<p>Cessationists rightly argue that this is a threat to the Doctrine of Scripture. If God is giving communication that is indeed revelation, then why isn\u2019t it held on common ground with Scripture? Continuationists often respond that it is of a different kind: the revelation of Scripture is in regard to doctrine but the revelation of prophecy for the individual is in regard to their situation. But this bit of a different kind just doesn\u2019t have any foundation.<\/p>\n<p>That is, unless they dipped into the Roman doctrine of Papal Infallibility.<\/p>\n<p>The Roman Church teaches that there are different spheres of Infallibility: Scripture being one of these spheres, the Magesterium being another and tradition being yet another. But these spheres are all fraught with fallibility when they haven\u2019t been codified. So the Pope is always fallible because he is a sinful human. But when he speaks ex cathedra, that is specific teaching from the chair\u2014his position of authority over the Church in the vein of Peter\u2019s primacy\u2014then the Pope is infallible.<\/p>\n<p>The explanation for how this works varies but it can probably be stated in this way: it\u2019s not the ability of the Pope but the ability of the Holy Spirit that historically gave Peter the primacy and then continues to ensure that when the Pope (in the tradition of Peter) invokes ex cathedra, then he will unconditionally, and yet freely, teach infallibly. Past Popes haven\u2019t invoked this that much (though those few times have been doozies).<\/p>\n<p>Of course, Protestants don\u2019t think humans are ever infallible except that the Holy Scripture has so ordered events to ensure that the Scriptures would be infallible. This would mean that the Holy Spirit was directing people, but it is the text that is given the property of infallibility (I\u2019m not bothering with the term inerrant because infallibility strikes me as a stronger affirmation: it\u2019s not merely without mistakes\u2014which could be an accident\u2014it is impossible for it to even teach error) not the human.<\/p>\n<p>So if Continuationists argue that all prophecy, even the Old Testament Prophets and the Apostles are fallible even when they\u2019re prophesying and teaching then it wouldn\u2019t matter if modern day Prophets are fallible. They can also all be fallible when they\u2019re interpreting their own prophecies and teachings. What winds up being infallible is when the Holy Spirit ensures that the words on the page are Scripture. So whatever the authors might have thought in their context, and whatever the prophecies may have looked like when they spoke them, it doesn\u2019t matter because what winds up being recorded, codified and confirmed as Scripture is what has the property of infallibility.<\/p>\n<p>This probably generates problems and uncomfortable conclusions that I\u2019ll ignore in this post but I think this might be a stronger way to go than the special pleading.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am a cessationist insofar as all the gifts of the spirit are NOT (edit) in full operation today as they were in the early Church, but I am a continuationist in regard to \u201cnew\u201d areas where the Gospel is being preached. 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