{"id":307,"date":"2006-09-30T17:35:51","date_gmt":"2006-09-30T21:35:51","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2007-04-03T15:36:24","modified_gmt":"2007-04-03T20:36:24","slug":"09-shepherding-conference-liveblog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/","title":{"rendered":"09-Shepherding Conference (LiveBlog)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing in the overview of the qualifications for elders,  we turn our focus to 1 Tim 3:4-5. In particular this section focuses on the  home because the relationship between the home and the church of God  is closely tied. There are, of course, other verses that underpin this subject  header: 1 Cor 11:3, 8011; Eph 5:21-25; 1 Pet 3:1, 6-7. The qualifications of  the speaker for this subject perhaps can be helpful for understanding that the  speaker is not teaching out of a void. The speaker can empathize with those who  struggle with a rowdy home with three boys, now by the grace of God one is an  excellent expositor, one is a missionary and the other is very active in an  assembly. All of the speaker&#8217;s grandchildren are saved and he and his wife of  forty seven years are grateful.<\/p>\n<p>The lesson in this section is clear: we can not separate  what we are at home from what we are in the church for the way we conduct  ourselves in the home will affect our church in some degree or another. The  apostle places his house-life next to the very house of God\u00e2\u20ac\u201dtherefore there  must be complete consistency. The home is the training ground for any type of  work we may partake in for in it: 1) character is developed 2) we learn to  love, 3) learn to pity, 4) learn to exercise tenderness, 5) exercise headship,  6) and administer discipline. A person doesn&#8217;t begin to function as an overseer  upon receiving a label; he is already doing the work. As you know sheep can not  read labels and see the shepherd&#8217;s overalls and read the words on his lapel to  know he is a shepherd: they recognize the worker when they see him working.  There is no formal ordination where people don&#8217;t expect the person to be their  overseer and if the day ever comes where someone is raised as an overseer and  it&#8217;s a big surprise to everyone then he is not an overseer.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ruling Well?<\/strong><br \/>\nIt is erroneous to think that Ruling means domination as in  the family is subservient to the dictates of the Tyrant King of the Home. The  proper thinking is that in the home the potential overseer stands before them  in the form of example: attending to their needs, caring for the home and  presiding over them. He leads by example and not by dictate as per the good  shepherd in John 10 who calls by name and leads them out not shouting at them  then bullying them. The sheep then hear his voice and follow him.<\/p>\n<p>It is also erroneous to think that Well is redefining Ruling  to mean a Proper Autocracy. The proper thinking is that authority is being exercised  in such a way as to bring about an admirable outcome. Therefore the ruling  authority is one that reflects an example by constantly attending to needs of  those he has a care over and well is that it yields admirable results.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Keeping Children Under Subjection?<\/strong><br \/>\nSometimes people take this to mean the thirty year old children that have gone  off and done whatever they see fit in their lives and thus disqualify  themselves from the work\u00e2\u20ac\u201dthis is not the case: this is in reference to little  children and in the case of those older progeny\u00e2\u20ac\u201dthey are no longer in subjection.  Ephesians 6:1 would say Little children obey your parents in the Lord and that  they are to honor their father and mother (Eph 6:2)<\/p>\n<p>They are to be brought up in the admonition of the Lord but  done so in so a way that is not hyper-critical\u00e2\u20ac\u201dnot provoking children unto  wrath.<\/p>\n<p>The current climate with children is that they are told to  assert themselves and to disagree with anyone in authority. In Scotland, the  only communication in the school was from the teacher who stood at the front  and the children were expected to sit silently. Therefore the speaker believes  that there is a stage where children are entirely subject to their parents and  that there is no discussion only obedience. Children are not to be given silly  choices like \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Do you want to stay here and keep watching the Disney channel or  do you want to go to the meeting tonight?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d A child must be told \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Turn off the  tv, it&#8217;s time for the meeting\u00e2\u20ac\u009d no discussion.<\/p>\n<p><strong>With All Gravity<\/strong><br \/>\nSometimes this is taken to mean that the father must be a Kill-Joy; that is not  the case. He must act in a way that makes it advisable to obey, he must speak  with a wisdom that makes it natural to obey and also displays a love that makes  it delightful to obey.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Headship<\/strong><br \/>\nIt is erroneous to think that headship isn&#8217;t important or old fashioned. If the  wife doesn&#8217;t respect the man&#8217;s leadership in the home there will be problems in  the church where that leadership will come into play. Likewise, if the man  gives over his leadership in the home he may have problems with not emphasizing  leadership in the church.<\/p>\n<p>This concept is laughed out of court today and taken to mean  that the wife is to submit to every degraded opinion of the husband. There  should be intelligent discussion and interaction and the husband must be  willing to take all points into consideration\u00e2\u20ac\u201dthis could mean admitting that  you&#8217;re decision was not the most favorable one and going with her opinion. But  above all, the matter does not end in a stalemate: the husband must make a  decision and the wife has to submit to his authority in the matter.<\/p>\n<p>But remember husbands that you are to love your wives (Eph  5). This is a very high calling to the way you are a leader in your home. This  leadership has a high standard\u00e2\u20ac\u201dbeing Sacrificial and willing to lay down your  life for her. This leadership has a high comparison&#8212;as Christ loved the  church! This leadership is not blind but understanding, with knowledge and with  honor understanding the differences in biology and that we are not to be  boorish (1 Pet 3)!<\/p>\n<p>Session 09 &#8211; Willie Burnett<\/p>\n<p class=\"techtags\">Tech Tags: <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/elder,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">elder,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/pastor,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">pastor,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/shepherd,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">shepherd,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/shepherding,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">shepherding,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/flock,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">flock,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/church\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">church<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/leadership,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">leadership,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/family,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">family,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/headship,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">headship,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/husbands,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">husbands,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/wives,\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">wives,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/tag\/children\" rel=\"tag\" class=\"techtag\">children<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing in the overview of the qualifications for elders, we turn our focus to 1 Tim 3:4-5. In particular this section focuses on the home because the relationship between the home and the church of God is closely tied. There are, of course, other verses that underpin this subject header: 1 Cor 11:3, 8011; Eph [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[32,8,38],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-307","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-brethren","category-church","category-liveblog"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>09-Shepherding Conference (LiveBlog) - Rey Reynoso&#039;s Bible Archive<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"09-Shepherding Conference (LiveBlog) - Rey Reynoso&#039;s Bible Archive\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Continuing in the overview of the qualifications for elders, we turn our focus to 1 Tim 3:4-5. In particular this section focuses on the home because the relationship between the home and the church of God is closely tied. There are, of course, other verses that underpin this subject header: 1 Cor 11:3, 8011; Eph [&hellip;]\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Rey Reynoso&#039;s Bible Archive\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reyreynoso\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:author\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reyreynoso\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"-0001-11-30T00:00:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2007-04-03T20:36:24+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"rey\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"rey\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"5 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"rey\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/e8c55a4aab6df13bed13eae5edfab9aa\"},\"headline\":\"09-Shepherding Conference (LiveBlog)\",\"datePublished\":\"-0001-11-30T00:00:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2007-04-03T20:36:24+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":1035,\"commentCount\":0,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/e8c55a4aab6df13bed13eae5edfab9aa\"},\"articleSection\":[\"brethren\",\"church\",\"liveblog\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"CommentAction\",\"name\":\"Comment\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\\\/#respond\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\\\/\",\"name\":\"09-Shepherding Conference (LiveBlog) - Rey Reynoso&#039;s Bible Archive\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"-0001-11-30T00:00:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2007-04-03T20:36:24+00:00\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\\\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/\",\"name\":\"Rey Reynoso and The Bible Archive\",\"description\":\"Notes and Thoughts  from An Unabashedly Plymouth Brethren Blogger\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/e8c55a4aab6df13bed13eae5edfab9aa\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":[\"Person\",\"Organization\"],\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/e8c55a4aab6df13bed13eae5edfab9aa\",\"name\":\"rey\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i0.wp.com\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/cropped-tba_banner.jpg?fit=1000%2C288&ssl=1\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i0.wp.com\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/cropped-tba_banner.jpg?fit=1000%2C288&ssl=1\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i0.wp.com\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/cropped-tba_banner.jpg?fit=1000%2C288&ssl=1\",\"width\":\"1000\",\"height\":\"288\",\"caption\":\"rey\"},\"logo\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/i0.wp.com\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2012\\\/03\\\/cropped-tba_banner.jpg?fit=1000%2C288&ssl=1\"},\"sameAs\":[\"http:\\\/\\\/www.biblearchive.com\",\"https:\\\/\\\/www.facebook.com\\\/reyreynoso\",\"https:\\\/\\\/x.com\\\/reybeez\"],\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/biblearchive.com\\\/blog\\\/author\\\/biblerey\\\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"09-Shepherding Conference (LiveBlog) - Rey Reynoso&#039;s Bible Archive","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"09-Shepherding Conference (LiveBlog) - Rey Reynoso&#039;s Bible Archive","og_description":"Continuing in the overview of the qualifications for elders, we turn our focus to 1 Tim 3:4-5. In particular this section focuses on the home because the relationship between the home and the church of God is closely tied. There are, of course, other verses that underpin this subject header: 1 Cor 11:3, 8011; Eph [&hellip;]","og_url":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/","og_site_name":"Rey Reynoso&#039;s Bible Archive","article_publisher":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reyreynoso","article_author":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reyreynoso","article_published_time":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00+00:00","article_modified_time":"2007-04-03T20:36:24+00:00","author":"rey","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"rey","Est. reading time":"5 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/"},"author":{"name":"rey","@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/e8c55a4aab6df13bed13eae5edfab9aa"},"headline":"09-Shepherding Conference (LiveBlog)","datePublished":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00+00:00","dateModified":"2007-04-03T20:36:24+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/"},"wordCount":1035,"commentCount":0,"publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/e8c55a4aab6df13bed13eae5edfab9aa"},"articleSection":["brethren","church","liveblog"],"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"CommentAction","name":"Comment","target":["https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/#respond"]}]},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/","url":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/","name":"09-Shepherding Conference (LiveBlog) - Rey Reynoso&#039;s Bible Archive","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/#website"},"datePublished":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00+00:00","dateModified":"2007-04-03T20:36:24+00:00","inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/09-shepherding-conference-liveblog\/"]}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/#website","url":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/","name":"Rey Reynoso and The Bible Archive","description":"Notes and Thoughts  from An Unabashedly Plymouth Brethren Blogger","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/e8c55a4aab6df13bed13eae5edfab9aa"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":["Person","Organization"],"@id":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/#\/schema\/person\/e8c55a4aab6df13bed13eae5edfab9aa","name":"rey","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/cropped-tba_banner.jpg?fit=1000%2C288&ssl=1","url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/cropped-tba_banner.jpg?fit=1000%2C288&ssl=1","contentUrl":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/cropped-tba_banner.jpg?fit=1000%2C288&ssl=1","width":"1000","height":"288","caption":"rey"},"logo":{"@id":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/cropped-tba_banner.jpg?fit=1000%2C288&ssl=1"},"sameAs":["http:\/\/www.biblearchive.com","https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reyreynoso","https:\/\/x.com\/reybeez"],"url":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/author\/biblerey\/"}]}},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pbR50-4X","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/307","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=307"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/307\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=307"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=307"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=307"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}