{"id":480,"date":"2005-06-21T12:10:00","date_gmt":"2005-06-21T16:10:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2005-06-21T15:22:56","modified_gmt":"2005-06-21T19:22:56","slug":"esv-lovers-unite-and-answer-me-or-wayne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/esv-lovers-unite-and-answer-me-or-wayne\/","title":{"rendered":"ESV Lovers Unite (and Answer Me or Wayne)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So after I confessed to <a href=\"content\/view\/391\/58\/\" target=\"_self\">not particularly liking<\/a><br \/>\nthe ESV and favoring my<br \/>\nNASB anyday over it I started to wonder: Why is it that so many people<br \/>\nonline seem to be embracing it anyway? I mean, one person seems to<br \/>\nthink my Bible preference is a<a target=\"_self\" href=\"content\/view\/288\/95\/\"> &quot;Satanic Roman Catholic perverted piece of garbage &quot;<\/a> while others think only the KJV<br \/>\nis perfect.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The question led me to various cross-blog readings. Jeremy gave a very good presentation on <a href=\"http:\/\/parablemania.ektopos.com\/archives\/2005\/06\/how_not_to_tran.html\" target=\"_blank\">translation problems<\/a> and also linked to the<br \/>\ngenius of the English Bible Blog (which I actually put in my &ldquo;Bible<br \/>\nTools&rdquo; section some time ago, Wayne is that good) who was also <a href=\"http:\/\/englishbibles.blogspot.com\/2005\/06\/how-to-translate.html\" target=\"_blank\">addressed the topic<\/a>. I have been also going through Adrian&rsquo;s<br \/>\nquestions for the ESV blog (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.adrian.warnock.info\/2005\/06\/esv-interview-is-translation-effected.htm\" target=\"_blank\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.adrian.warnock.info\/2005\/06\/esv-interview-breadth-of-acceptance-1_16.htm\" target=\"_blank\">2<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.adrian.warnock.info\/2005\/06\/esv-interview-breadth-of-acceptance-2.htm\" target=\"_blank\">3<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.adrian.warnock.info\/2005\/06\/esv-interview-verses-in-footnotes-1.htm\" target=\"_blank\">4<\/a>, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.adrian.warnock.info\/2005\/06\/esv-interview-verses-in-footnotes-2.htm\">5<\/a> to date)\n<\/p>\n<p>In one of his responses, Adrian states that the ESV is being embraced<br \/>\nby all types of Christians online. That also sparked my interest and I<br \/>\nstarted searching why this would be the case. He mentions that it could<br \/>\nbe a form of pyromarketing (something I have stated on Tim&rsquo;s board<br \/>\nafter Tim highlighted the danger of <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.challies.com\/archives\/001039.php\">Rick Warren&rsquo;s marketing<br \/>\napproach<\/a>) and I think that could be part of it. The ESV has done a good<br \/>\njob of interacting with Bloggers while simultaneously employing a slick<br \/>\nCSS feel, easy linking to their bible verses and openness in<br \/>\ncommunication. My favorite translation, on the other hand, has a very<br \/>\ndated site, clunky searching capability and one finds it easier to<br \/>\nsearch verses on the Bible Gateway than anything Lockman has touched.<\/p>\n<p>Be that as it may, I&rsquo;m still not too sure how diverse the ESV<br \/>\nlovers-online are. I find it interesting that a lot of the ESV-pushers<br \/>\nseem to be from the Reformed camp. Yes, I know that the ESV Reformation<br \/>\nStudy Bible came out and that may be part of the reason but there was<br \/>\nan ESV buzz long before the Reformation Study Bible came out. <\/p>\n<p>Adrian mentioned that this Bible (presumably above other Bibles) has<br \/>\nsuch a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.adrian.warnock.info\/2005\/06\/esv-interview-is-translation-effected.htm\" target=\"_blank\">scholarly clout<\/a> that it should make some one sit up and take<br \/>\nnotice. I personally think that it&rsquo;s more pyromarketing at it&rsquo;s best<br \/>\n(with a nice shining quote by Reformed golden boy John Piper displayed<br \/>\nproudly on the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.esv.org\/\">main page<\/a>) to have <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.esv.org\/translation\/team\">publicly known names<\/a> as part of their<br \/>\ncommittees because other Biblical translations have as much scholarly<br \/>\nclout. For the common Joe to sit up and take notice because Grudem and<br \/>\nPacker are part of the team sings too close a tune of &ldquo;I am of Paul, I<br \/>\nam of Apollos&rdquo; to me. <\/p>\n<p>Sure there&rsquo;s a few non-Reformer types who seem to <a href=\"http:\/\/thehappyhusband.com\/?p=238\" target=\"_blank\">enjoy the language<\/a> of<br \/>\nthe ESV. I can&rsquo;t say that it&rsquo;s because they were former NIV users and<br \/>\nnow find something a bit more literal since there are hundreds of<br \/>\nthousands of <a href=\"http:\/\/englishbibles.blogspot.com\/2005\/06\/esv-wish-list.html\" target=\"_blank\">NIV users<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>So here&rsquo;s my questions for you: <strong>Why do you like the ESV? What is your<br \/>\ntheological leaning? (Reformed? Calvinist? Arminian?<br \/>\nDispensationalist? Anything?) <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>-r-<\/em><\/p>\n<p>FYI: Wayne (and Joe Missionary) asked the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/englishbibles.blogspot.com\/2005\/06\/calling-all-esv-enthusiasts.html\">same exact question<\/a><br \/>\nover on his site. So if you want you can post your comment on<br \/>\nboth of our sites or read what folk are saying over at Wayne&#8217;s much<br \/>\nmore famous site. :)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So after I confessed to not particularly liking the ESV and favoring my NASB anyday over it I started to wonder: Why is it that so many people online seem to be embracing it anyway? 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