{"id":508,"date":"2005-10-10T11:00:21","date_gmt":"2005-10-10T15:00:21","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2005-10-10T11:18:08","modified_gmt":"2005-10-10T15:18:08","slug":"retro-metro-heteros","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/biblearchive.com\/blog\/retro-metro-heteros\/","title":{"rendered":"Retro, Metro, Heteros"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Picking up a link from Challies <a href=\"http:\/\/www.challies.com\/sideblog\/archives\/001364.php\">A La Carte feature<\/a>, I wond up getting exposed to a discussion about a culture war happening with God-Bloggers. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marlaswoffer.com\/blog\/2005\/10\/retro_vs_metro_.html\">Marla<\/a><br \/>\noffers the chart not so much as a definition of the bloggers Challies<br \/>\nand iMonk (as some may have taken it to be) or even as supporting one<br \/>\nside over the other&mdash;but merely to show that most bloggers have areas of<br \/>\ninterest that lie in both categories.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedelen.com\/2005\/10\/what-hath-marla-wrought.html\">Cerulean Sanctum<\/a><br \/>\nwent and did an interesting post where he highlighted where he stands<br \/>\nand openly supports dual categories as being a false distinction in the<br \/>\nchart. Mind you, I&rsquo;m not attacking Marla or anyone&mdash;the chart proves to<br \/>\nbe an interesting social exercise that I had to take part in.<\/p>\n<p>That being said, I&rsquo;ve added a third column called HETEROS or Other<br \/>\nwhere it describes where I stand in comparison to the chart and what I<br \/>\nthink are some options that haven&rsquo;t been mentioned or sections that<br \/>\ncould be clarified. You may note that some sections are bolded across<br \/>\nthe line whereas others have a question mark<\/p>\n<table width=\"400\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"3\" border=\"1\">\n<tr>\n<td>RETRO\n<\/td>\n<td>METRO\n<\/td>\n<td>HETEROS\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Rural or <strong>Small Town<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Urban<\/strong> or Suburban<\/td>\n<td><strong>NYC moving to PA soon <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/challies.com\">Challies<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/internetmonk.com\">iMonk<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a target=\"_self\" href=\"component\/option,com_frontpage\/Itemid,65\/\">Rey<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>ESTJ<\/td>\n<td>INFP<\/td>\n<td><strong>ENTJ or ENTP or ESTP <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Left-Brained<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Right-Brained<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Analytical and an Artist <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Conservative<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Liberal<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>economics skews liberal <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Calvinist<\/td>\n<td>Arminian<\/td>\n<td><strong>non-Calvinist \/ anti-Armin.<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Quiver Full<\/td>\n<td>Family Planning<\/td>\n<td><strong>2 kids <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Prose<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Poetry<\/td>\n<td>RETRO<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>C.S. Lewis: Mere Christianity<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>C.S. Lewis: Chronicles of Narnia<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>i loved them both <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Homeschool<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Public School<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Private School <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/phillipjohnson.blogspot.com\">Pyromaniac<\/a> <\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com\">Tall Skinny Kiwi<\/a> <\/td>\n<td><strong>neither<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Think<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Feel<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Act<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Sola Scriptura <\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>God Revealed (Many Ways)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>not mutually exclusive <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Apologetics<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Testimony<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Puritans<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Mystics<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>and they both had errors <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>God the Father<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Jesus<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>and the Holy Spirit <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Isolate<\/td>\n<td>Integrate<\/td>\n<td>?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Past<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Future<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Present<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Gifts of the Spirit: NO<\/td>\n<td>Gifts of the Spirit: YES<\/td>\n<td><strong>depends<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Words<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Pictures<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Rhythm<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Criminal Justice<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Social Justice<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>not mutually exclusive <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Proverbs<\/td>\n<td>Psalms<\/td>\n<td><strong>depends<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.humblemusings.com\/\">Amy&#8217;s Humble Musings<\/a><\/td>\n<td>(vacancy)<\/td>\n<td>?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Historic Reformation<\/td>\n<td>New Reformation<\/td>\n<td><strong>Revival<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Older<\/td>\n<td>Younger<\/td>\n<td><strong>I&#8217;m 31. half-dead?<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Patriotic<\/td>\n<td>Global<\/td>\n<td><strong>Heavenly with Earthly Acts <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Women: Traditional<\/td>\n<td>Women: Egalitarian<\/td>\n<td><strong>Women: At My Side <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Rant<\/td>\n<td>Brood<\/td>\n<td><strong>Teach<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Do<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Dream<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Plan<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Reformed<\/td>\n<td>Emergent<\/td>\n<td><strong>One Body <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Theologically Correct<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Relationally Relevant<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>And Practiced<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Psychology: NO<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Psychology: YES<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>depends on the issue <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/thinklings.org\/\">The Thinklings<\/a><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.boarsheadtavern.com\/\">The Boar&#8217;s Head Tavern<\/a><\/td>\n<td><strong>?<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>ESV<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>The Message<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>NASB<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Certain<\/td>\n<td>Open<\/td>\n<td><strong>Modified Open <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Catholics: NO<\/td>\n<td>Catholics: YES<\/td>\n<td><strong>Depends<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Sermon<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Conversation<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Practiced Lifestyle <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Truth<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Love<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Grace<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Hymns<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Modern Music<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Choral<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Craftsmanship<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Technology<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Design<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Literal<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Metaphorical<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong> Literarily <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Harry Potter &#8211; NO<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Harry Potter &#8211; YES<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Rom 14 <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>PC<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Mac<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Linux<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>I&rsquo;ve got quite a few blogs on my RSS feed:<a href=\"http:\/\/parablemania.ektopos.com\/\">Parableman<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/mysteriouscloakedfigure.blogspot.com\/\">MCF<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thehappyhusband.com\/\">Curt,<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/thethirstytheologian.blogspot.com\/\">Thirsty Theologian<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coffeeswirls.com\/\">Doug<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reasonswhy.org\/\">Brian<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/shane.5twenty8.com\/\">Shane<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/eternalperspectives.com\/\">Mike<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/everydaymusings.blogspot.com\/\">Rebecca<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/philthreeten.myblogsite.com\/blog\">Phil 3:10<\/a>, a few dozen others (not to mention <a href=\"http:\/\/www.challies.com\/\">Tim<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marlaswoffer.com\/\">Marla<\/a> and now Cerulean Sanctum&mdash;good site), I would put <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedelen.com\/cerulean.html\">Ceruleum Sanctum<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/theologica.worldmagblog.com\/theologica\/\">Theologica<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/anniecrawford.com\/\">Annie&#8217;s site<\/a> on there if their RSS feed worked (::sigh::). So obviously my taste varies but when it comes to the selection between <a href=\"http:\/\/tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com\/\">Tall Skinny<\/a> (not my taste) and <a href=\"http:\/\/phillipjohnson.blogspot.com\/\">Pyromaniac<\/a> (too many unavoidable arguments for my taste) I realy can&#8217;t say one or the other. <\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m openly a Non-Calvinist but I am adamantly against true<br \/>\nArminianism&rsquo;s (in contrast to some Calvinist&#8217;s oversimplification of<br \/>\n&quot;if you&#8217;re not a Calvinist you&#8217;re an Armininian) defining points<br \/>\n(salvation-loss for one). Here&#8217;s another chart with a not-so-simple<br \/>\nexplanation. Both Calvinism and Arminianism see man as depraved and<br \/>\nunable to believe and from there they differ as much as black is to<br \/>\nwhite (although Perseverance and Assurance may wind up practically<br \/>\nbeing the same). As for myself I would define people as Knowingly<br \/>\nDepraved, theElect or Choice  body as Unconditionally Predestined,<br \/>\nChrist died for all but those who believe are those who will stand<br \/>\nwithout condemnation, a person can knowingly resist the grace of God and<br \/>\nGod will preserve those who believe until the end.\n<\/p>\n<table width=\"411\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"3\" border=\"1\">\n<tr>\n<td>CALVINISM<\/td>\n<td>ARMINIANISM<\/td>\n<td>NON-CALVINIST REY\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Total Depravity <\/td>\n<td>Deprivation <\/td>\n<td>Knowingly Depraved <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Unconditional Election <\/td>\n<td>Conditional Election<\/td>\n<td>Unconditional Predestination of the Body&#8230;the Elect  <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Limited Atonement <\/td>\n<td>Unlimited Atonement<\/td>\n<td>Unlimited Atonement Appropriated by Believers <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Irresistable Grace <\/td>\n<td>Resistible Grace<\/td>\n<td>Resistable Grace <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Perseverance of Saints<\/td>\n<td>Assurance and Security depends on faithfulness <\/td>\n<td>Preservation of the Saints <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>I think Words and Pictures are both great ways of communicating but<br \/>\nwould also add Rhythm to that&quot; be it sound, visual or literarily.<\/p>\n<p>As for Literal vs. Metaphorical I think &ldquo;literarily&rdquo; actually encompasses both those categories and more. <\/p>\n<p>Still, it did prove to be an interesting exercise I don&rsquo;t know what some of the categories mean (<a href=\"http:\/\/thinklings.org\/\">Thinklings<\/a> vs. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boarsheadtavern.com\/\">Boar&rsquo;s Head<\/a>? <a href=\"http:\/\/www.humblemusings.com\/\">Amy&rsquo;s Humble Musings<\/a><br \/>\nvs. &#8216;Vacancy&#8217;?). With some clarification I could probably add to that<br \/>\nbut I think this is suffice to say that there is an &ldquo;other&rdquo; option<br \/>\nwhich doesn&rsquo;t fall into either category and will likely refuse to line<br \/>\nup as such. Some will probably take that to mean &ldquo;Emergent&rdquo; and others<br \/>\nwill say &ldquo;bah, just a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.retrovsmetro.org\/retrovsmetro\/\">Retro<\/a> acting Metro by taking the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bravotv.com\/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy\/\">Fab-5&rsquo;s advice<\/a>.&rdquo; heh. Or maybe, you can take it as a new meme and that could add to conversation. :)\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Picking up a link from Challies A La Carte feature, I wond up getting exposed to a discussion about a culture war happening with God-Bloggers. 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